Carol 3 days ago
have moved on and now are in private contact--------its working and its very interesting---------see ya around sometime, just not ALL the time.
Politics is just too varied, and interesting, when the bullies are left to themselves. Constructive dialog can take place when personal attacks and insults, which lead to self-destruction, are taken out of the equation.
Entropy, and lack of intellect, have trashed this site.
Politics is just too varied, and interesting, when the bullies are left to themselves. Constructive dialog can take place when personal attacks and insults, which lead to self-destruction, are taken out of the equation.
Entropy, and lack of intellect, have trashed this site.
Carol 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Rojayalso 3 days ago
+9 Votes
Thats a 10-4 Carol. This is now the site of a Thousand Clones.
I've not quit and won't but cant get here as much,other priorities!
I've not quit and won't but cant get here as much,other priorities!
LiveStrongest 3 days ago
+13 Votes
I'm glad you have your little community now where you can pat each other on the back and say how brilliant you are and not be confronted with facts that contradict your position.
rick0427 3 days ago
+4 Votes
LS it's not what you are trying to say it is the hate filled comments and virulent dialogue that many here want to use. Instead of trashing the commentor trash the comment. Too many here won't do that. Some days it's like a pre school playground around here
Ornithopters 3 days ago
+12 Votes
Well that is what this site was when it started. Dry and Carol would continually flatter each other over their liberal and more than liberal thoughts.
If she wants to live in an echo chamber, that is her choice, I can't force her to see both sides.
And talk about class. If you have something better going, do your something better. Don't go and tell the rest of us, I have something better, Nyah Nyah Nyah.
Brother.
If she wants to live in an echo chamber, that is her choice, I can't force her to see both sides.
And talk about class. If you have something better going, do your something better. Don't go and tell the rest of us, I have something better, Nyah Nyah Nyah.
Brother.
teri 1 day ago
+3 Votes
Yes, rick your comments are dialed in.
To the name calling offenders:
Stop calling people names----enough already of delusional, bigoted, racist nonsense name calling. Just because a poster disagrees with you doesn't make them a delusional racist bigot.
How long do we have to put up with that nonsense?
Get a grip and grow up!!!!!
To you non-name calling left leaning posters:
Time to stand up against the name callers in your own midst and put a stop to it.
To the name calling offenders:
Stop calling people names----enough already of delusional, bigoted, racist nonsense name calling. Just because a poster disagrees with you doesn't make them a delusional racist bigot.
How long do we have to put up with that nonsense?
Get a grip and grow up!!!!!
To you non-name calling left leaning posters:
Time to stand up against the name callers in your own midst and put a stop to it.
teri 1 day ago
+4 Votes
Pterosaur 1 day ago
+2 Votes
teri; "speaking of clones....that IS you after all, byrd, isn't it?"
You seem to be confusing "clones" with those whose accounts were unjustly fragged by Carol, you, gottaloveit, dhd and others,
This necessitated creation of a new account under a new screen name in order to defend oneself. There are several regular posters here who have needed to create new accounts in order to defend themselves. This is a far different phenomenon than the racist right wing cloning which has dominated these pages. It is just like you to pretend not to understand the difference. You have minimized or defended the proliferation of right wing bigots and their dozens of true clones (with fragging privileges). Your willful ignorance cannot hide your hypocrisy. less
You seem to be confusing "clones" with those whose accounts were unjustly fragged by Carol, you, gottaloveit, dhd and others,
This necessitated creation of a new account under a new screen name in order to defend oneself. There are several regular posters here who have needed to create new accounts in order to defend themselves. This is a far different phenomenon than the racist right wing cloning which has dominated these pages. It is just like you to pretend not to understand the difference. You have minimized or defended the proliferation of right wing bigots and their dozens of true clones (with fragging privileges). Your willful ignorance cannot hide your hypocrisy. less
Pterosaur 1 day ago
You and your "byrd alerts"... leading the group of krazykats, angies, BullWhippers, gottaloveits, and others....
.... but never calling out " ... “BackoftheBus”….."Blue Gum"... "housenagger" .... "Sambo" ... "Irish Jig"... ..." lawnjockie" ..." ..." WHSquatter"… “OurMuttKohl,”… “CollardGuy” … “Scrub Me Mamma”… “Chuck A Spear“…. TxRoadRash"… "… “cmon2012redux”… "BouncingJames".... "LanceLofter" … javelinist……“lanai macaque”… “soon2bbutler”...
.... among dozens (literally) of other Klansmen who were given the run of this place, as well as US Politics.
.... but never calling out " ... “BackoftheBus”….."Blue Gum"... "housenagger" .... "Sambo" ... "Irish Jig"... ..." lawnjockie" ..." ..." WHSquatter"… “OurMuttKohl,”… “CollardGuy” … “Scrub Me Mamma”… “Chuck A Spear“…. TxRoadRash"… "… “cmon2012redux”… "BouncingJames".... "LanceLofter" … javelinist……“lanai macaque”… “soon2bbutler”...
.... among dozens (literally) of other Klansmen who were given the run of this place, as well as US Politics.
teri 1 day ago
+3 Votes
You are the ONLY one saying I can't tell the difference between serial clones and simultaneous clones.
I can tell the difference. I just have no liking for either kind.
It's the venom being spewed that gets you fragged.
Like another poster here you have some good ideas but you attack others rather than express your ideas.
It's no more fun to be fragged for simply expressing an opinion which has happened to me.
Clones can give a false sense of support for any idea by posting in favor of it. They can also easily delete opposing ideas by using multiple identities to RA multiple times. I never hear the left speak out against this---one of the major clone cluster offenders only posts Obama cheerleading opinion. less
I can tell the difference. I just have no liking for either kind.
It's the venom being spewed that gets you fragged.
Like another poster here you have some good ideas but you attack others rather than express your ideas.
It's no more fun to be fragged for simply expressing an opinion which has happened to me.
Clones can give a false sense of support for any idea by posting in favor of it. They can also easily delete opposing ideas by using multiple identities to RA multiple times. I never hear the left speak out against this---one of the major clone cluster offenders only posts Obama cheerleading opinion. less
Pterosaur 1 day ago
teri: ".... serial clones and simultaneous clones. ... I can tell the difference. I just have no liking for either kind"
I have no liking for your kind either... obsequious, smug, authoritarian, dim-witted.
It's just my opinion. Do you have to be bathed with praise and approbation before allowing others to speak? You and your "byrd alerts," while you tolerate... and support... a profusion of overt racists and right wing bigots. Good lord.
... and you seem to tolerate, no, support, the endless stream of racist and otherwise scurrilous attacks on Obama, yet you are exercised by a bit of partisan cheerleading for the current president. There is something deeply, smugly, wrong with that. less
I have no liking for your kind either... obsequious, smug, authoritarian, dim-witted.
It's just my opinion. Do you have to be bathed with praise and approbation before allowing others to speak? You and your "byrd alerts," while you tolerate... and support... a profusion of overt racists and right wing bigots. Good lord.
... and you seem to tolerate, no, support, the endless stream of racist and otherwise scurrilous attacks on Obama, yet you are exercised by a bit of partisan cheerleading for the current president. There is something deeply, smugly, wrong with that. less
teri 1 day ago
+3 Votes
More of your mythology, pterobyrd.
Carol will have to speak for herself but
I already do more to question ridiculus posts from either side then most on the left ever have.
Is Obama's record really improved by the mindless cheerleading that appears here?
Here is something you are just going to have to contemplate:
There, no doubt, is criticism of Obama that is rooted in racism.
There is also criticism of Obama that is NOT rooted in racism.
To deny the possibility of the latter is tremendously short sighted and, well, racist itself.
You deny the very possibility that Obama can be viewed as a man or a president when you assign any and all criticism of him to racism. Is that really your entire world? less
Carol will have to speak for herself but
I already do more to question ridiculus posts from either side then most on the left ever have.
Is Obama's record really improved by the mindless cheerleading that appears here?
Here is something you are just going to have to contemplate:
There, no doubt, is criticism of Obama that is rooted in racism.
There is also criticism of Obama that is NOT rooted in racism.
To deny the possibility of the latter is tremendously short sighted and, well, racist itself.
You deny the very possibility that Obama can be viewed as a man or a president when you assign any and all criticism of him to racism. Is that really your entire world? less
Pterosaur 1 day ago
teri: "There is also criticism of Obama that is NOT rooted in racism. To deny the possibility of the latter is tremendously short sighted and, well, racist itself."
You are repeating the Fox News/Breitbart/Glenn Beck reverse racism trope, like the mindless GOP anti-Obama automaton you are.
I don't support Obama on these pages. As a matter of fact I have been deeply critical of him as the face of the corrupt DLC wing of the ruling corporate duopoly. The only time Obama looks good to me is in comparison to the even more corrupt, morally and intellectually bankrupt and profoundly incompetent GOP leadership. He has had some pretty impressive political accomplishments in the face of all-out partisan obstructionism from the GOP, while carrying himself with an intelligence and dignity light years beyond Bush, Romney, or any GOP standard bearer.
I certainly don't need any instruction on Obama's failings, or the GOP's tired reverse racism trope, especially from the likes of you. less
You are repeating the Fox News/Breitbart/Glenn Beck reverse racism trope, like the mindless GOP anti-Obama automaton you are.
I don't support Obama on these pages. As a matter of fact I have been deeply critical of him as the face of the corrupt DLC wing of the ruling corporate duopoly. The only time Obama looks good to me is in comparison to the even more corrupt, morally and intellectually bankrupt and profoundly incompetent GOP leadership. He has had some pretty impressive political accomplishments in the face of all-out partisan obstructionism from the GOP, while carrying himself with an intelligence and dignity light years beyond Bush, Romney, or any GOP standard bearer.
I certainly don't need any instruction on Obama's failings, or the GOP's tired reverse racism trope, especially from the likes of you. less
JimboSC 1 day ago
+2 Votes
Pterosaur,
Here's how your repeated racism and "reverse rascism trope" comments don't really have any merit.
In the previous comment you mentioned that there were things you liked about Obama's actions and things you didn't like. And I will accept that your feelings are not rooted in what Obama's race is, but rather what your political philosophy is.
But what I don't get is how, since teri and others are of a different political bent than you, they are necessarily racist by differing in the opinions you have which are themselves not racial.
But then, I do get it. I won't call it "reverse racism" but the tactic the left uses to discredit other people's politics is to use Obama's race and call them racists.
It really is kindergarten play ground garbage, but what else is there when you can't win on the issues.
And if you want to topple the corporate duopoly, you're going to have to de-nut your beloved government as that is the source of all it's power. less
Here's how your repeated racism and "reverse rascism trope" comments don't really have any merit.
In the previous comment you mentioned that there were things you liked about Obama's actions and things you didn't like. And I will accept that your feelings are not rooted in what Obama's race is, but rather what your political philosophy is.
But what I don't get is how, since teri and others are of a different political bent than you, they are necessarily racist by differing in the opinions you have which are themselves not racial.
But then, I do get it. I won't call it "reverse racism" but the tactic the left uses to discredit other people's politics is to use Obama's race and call them racists.
It really is kindergarten play ground garbage, but what else is there when you can't win on the issues.
And if you want to topple the corporate duopoly, you're going to have to de-nut your beloved government as that is the source of all it's power. less
Pterosaur 1 day ago
JimBob
As usual, you're not making any sense. All you are doing is a mindless repetition of the GOP's reverse racism trope in support of your right wing friends while obscuring the absolute fact that this site has been repeatedly flooded with dozens of overtly racist clones, who are up front and proud about their racism. I believe you have proudly counted yourself among them in certain unguarded moments, and you have been an aggressive Birther at times, as well. This site has been birther central and will likely be so again before November.
You are the ones who constantly reduce it to race and racism, with the occasional foray into absurd McCarthyite claims of socialism and other hoary forms of Red baiting and the kind of fear and hate mongering that always goes hand in glove with fascism.
There is rarely any intelligent, objective criticism of Obama here. It is all emotional, hot-button stuff, from the belly of the talk radio beast and the Fox News/GOP propagandists. less
As usual, you're not making any sense. All you are doing is a mindless repetition of the GOP's reverse racism trope in support of your right wing friends while obscuring the absolute fact that this site has been repeatedly flooded with dozens of overtly racist clones, who are up front and proud about their racism. I believe you have proudly counted yourself among them in certain unguarded moments, and you have been an aggressive Birther at times, as well. This site has been birther central and will likely be so again before November.
You are the ones who constantly reduce it to race and racism, with the occasional foray into absurd McCarthyite claims of socialism and other hoary forms of Red baiting and the kind of fear and hate mongering that always goes hand in glove with fascism.
There is rarely any intelligent, objective criticism of Obama here. It is all emotional, hot-button stuff, from the belly of the talk radio beast and the Fox News/GOP propagandists. less
JimboSC 1 day ago
+1 Vote
I'm a McCarthyite, granted. That is a political stance, not a racial one. My perspective on that comes from understanding of history, not from Fox.
I am a birther because of the logic of it, not because of the race of the subject.
Of course the clones you frequently list were racial. They were intended to troll you and they were magnificently effective at that. For the record, it wasn't me. And the incarnation of the "kernal" existed before I was a member here, so I can only guess who is who.
That was a remarkable list, no one can take that away from him. I imagine you spent a lot of time researching the references of those avatars....pretty ingenious.
I am a birther because of the logic of it, not because of the race of the subject.
Of course the clones you frequently list were racial. They were intended to troll you and they were magnificently effective at that. For the record, it wasn't me. And the incarnation of the "kernal" existed before I was a member here, so I can only guess who is who.
That was a remarkable list, no one can take that away from him. I imagine you spent a lot of time researching the references of those avatars....pretty ingenious.
rick0427 1 day ago
+1 Vote
My dear Teri it goes both ways. i have had days here that I am basically stalked by a couple of your rightist people so I just disappear for awhile. All I want is to have some sensible discussion and debate on the issues. To many here make that impossible. You know when I read a comment and the only rebuttal I can come up with is an attack on the poster, well I just tend to leave it alone an move on.Now I won't say that I have never attacked a poster. I have in retaliation for comments made about me, but I do try to keeep it to a minimum and won't instigate it.
teri 1 day ago
+5 Votes
Until those on the left address the clone problem with some consistency your complaints about clones ring hollow.
There is no one here who has anywhere near the number of clones as does a left leaning clone cluster who frequently posts rah rah opinion pieces that have nothing cited to back them up.
There is no one here who has anywhere near the number of clones as does a left leaning clone cluster who frequently posts rah rah opinion pieces that have nothing cited to back them up.
Pterosaur 1 day ago
+1 Vote
Who are you trying to kid?
This board was dominated for months by white supremacist KKK klones who never received disapproval from either you, or Carol, or any of the other conservative koffee klatchers. There was never anything "leftist" about Carol. She's an authoritarian control freak who unconvincingly played a liberal on MW.... pure tokenism. When push came to shove she was as "conservative" as the rest of the devils on this page.
Remember them? "Bullwhipper”… “ReturntoKogelo" ... “BackoftheBus”….."Blue Gum"... "housenagger" .... "Sambo" ... "Irish Jig"... "Cassius Clay"..." lawnjockie" ..." ..." WHSquatter"… “OurMuttKohl,”… “CollardGuy” … “Scrub Me Mamma”… “Chuck A Spear“…. TxRoadRash"… "thinkingman”… “cmon2012redux”… "BouncingJames".... "LanceLofter" … javelinist……“lanai macaque”… “soon2bbutler”…. “UBIwerks”… “F150Keelhauler”…. "JeanGaulbenet" …. "JiggyWitDat"… “OBoy”…. "JasperSlalom"… “CassiusMClay” .... ..... "The Joker" .... "PresidentJacksonHoff" …. less
This board was dominated for months by white supremacist KKK klones who never received disapproval from either you, or Carol, or any of the other conservative koffee klatchers. There was never anything "leftist" about Carol. She's an authoritarian control freak who unconvincingly played a liberal on MW.... pure tokenism. When push came to shove she was as "conservative" as the rest of the devils on this page.
Remember them? "Bullwhipper”… “ReturntoKogelo" ... “BackoftheBus”….."Blue Gum"... "housenagger" .... "Sambo" ... "Irish Jig"... "Cassius Clay"..." lawnjockie" ..." ..." WHSquatter"… “OurMuttKohl,”… “CollardGuy” … “Scrub Me Mamma”… “Chuck A Spear“…. TxRoadRash"… "thinkingman”… “cmon2012redux”… "BouncingJames".... "LanceLofter" … javelinist……“lanai macaque”… “soon2bbutler”…. “UBIwerks”… “F150Keelhauler”…. "JeanGaulbenet" …. "JiggyWitDat"… “OBoy”…. "JasperSlalom"… “CassiusMClay” .... ..... "The Joker" .... "PresidentJacksonHoff" …. less
Pterosaur 1 day ago
+1 Vote
"2X4BetweenTheEyes"…. "PorscheMonkey.... "TheMarxorcist"… “HangDemHigh” … “PrimoMinstrel” …. “LazytownDC”..... “2simple” …SonOfDaSouth”... iouman”… "Skrubmemammy".... KoolShade"... "CountyRdRoostertail"... “MCassiusClay” .... “GreenF250”… “StenchOfLiberalFear”… “WHExperiment… “TheMagicOne”…. “SwingingRoy”…..
... and many, MANY MORE.
They destroyed "American Politics" just as they did "US Politics" ..... with yours and Carol's approval and support.
... and many, MANY MORE.
They destroyed "American Politics" just as they did "US Politics" ..... with yours and Carol's approval and support.
fragpolitik 15 hours ago
+1 Vote
Carol? The Queen of Hypocrisy and Sugar Coated Hate Speech? PUHLEEZE.
Drama queen as well.
Bullies? Geez, lady, you spammed us to death and beat us over the head with your inanities and obamacratisms.
Can't take the heat? Get out of the kitchen.
Gone private with your circle of Obamacrats? Fine. Have a nice day. Obama will lose bigtime in November.
I did read however that UVa reinstated Pres. Sullivan. How's that workin for ya?
Drama queen as well.
Bullies? Geez, lady, you spammed us to death and beat us over the head with your inanities and obamacratisms.
Can't take the heat? Get out of the kitchen.
Gone private with your circle of Obamacrats? Fine. Have a nice day. Obama will lose bigtime in November.
I did read however that UVa reinstated Pres. Sullivan. How's that workin for ya?
CrazyMarine 3 days ago
+6 Votes
Sometimes to win the war you must meet the enemy head on and take casualties Carol, I,m on other sites where the average intelligence level is much higher but after a while it,s like preaching to the choir, and just as non productive, we cannot leave these people to drown in their own ignorance, when they lash out that,s a good sign, you hit a nerve and punctured their scripted dogma, saying what is right and correct can do no harm.
Ornithopters 3 days ago
+10 Votes
I am surprised you weren't invited into her club. It must be really exculsive to the ultra progressive left, vs your mere moderate left philosophies.
CrazyMarine 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Moderate left philosophy??? You may have a point, at times I,m at odds with both sides, but that,s probably a plus, our problems are more complex than ever and one side does not hold all the answers, I see some of that coming together here as time goes on and that,s a good thing. The most successful nations in the world have had the sense to blend both socialism and capitalism and have taken over as economic leaders, not just China, but places like Singapore, Malaysia and the Scandinavian countries are taking globalism in stride, we should learn from them, since globalism seems here to stay.
Ornithopters 3 days ago
+6 Votes
@Crazy, like I said moderate left philosophy, occasionaly you are squeemish about their most extreme positions, but your economic and social views are hardly conservative, and your views bend to the left more often then right. And your post above is an excellent example!
It shouldn't be a badge of dishonor. If you called me right wing, I certainly wouldn't go trying to show you the several times I have disagreed with RW philosophy on this board, I find it a badge of honor.
Regardless you and I both were not invited to the exclusive club.
It shouldn't be a badge of dishonor. If you called me right wing, I certainly wouldn't go trying to show you the several times I have disagreed with RW philosophy on this board, I find it a badge of honor.
Regardless you and I both were not invited to the exclusive club.
CrazyMarine 3 days ago
+5 Votes
I did not take it as criticism at all, I thought I explained, In the words of the late Rick Nelson "You can,t please everyone, but you got to please yourself" and my political posts are genuine examples of what I feel to be correct, if they offended some so be it. No one should take political discussion as a personnel attack, John Adams always called George Washington the "big Dummy", and everyone called Madison "that little runt" so our history has created a lack of civility and put it in our DNA.
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+4 Votes
US Politics is really dead.
The first page has Topics that have the last post 43 days ago.
The first page has Topics that have the last post 43 days ago.
YipesStripes 2 days ago
+4 Votes
CrazyMarine and Flunked. You both have taken a of abuse from the right wing gang members here. I find it hilarious that some of them think that they have been abused by the left. The right wing radicals here have always outnumbered the progressive voices by five or six to one. MAYBE TEN TO ONE!! Most of the righties have been abusive in their tone(Livestrongest, Joplin, LaughingatAmerica, Garyrr, DeweyCheatemandHowe, PresidentJacksonHoff, the Kat crowd etc.
Some of the righies here have meant well, but will never stray from their rigid ideals: Twins, Cougardan, teri, etc.
This site has been fun, but not as filled with the talent that the US Politics site was. One thing I find funny is that if you read the overview of what Carol created with the American Politics site, you will find it was FOR left leaning posters, not radical right wing nuts with an agenda. Go read it righties. less
Some of the righies here have meant well, but will never stray from their rigid ideals: Twins, Cougardan, teri, etc.
This site has been fun, but not as filled with the talent that the US Politics site was. One thing I find funny is that if you read the overview of what Carol created with the American Politics site, you will find it was FOR left leaning posters, not radical right wing nuts with an agenda. Go read it righties. less
teri 1 day ago
+3 Votes
Sorry Yipes but the statistics are against you on that one.
The jersey clones alone outnumber any right wing voices here--
You need to reread the intro to AmPol yourself---if you did you'd see that it welcomes any and all political persuasions as well as non-political topics--like jello and pudding.
The jersey clones alone outnumber any right wing voices here--
You need to reread the intro to AmPol yourself---if you did you'd see that it welcomes any and all political persuasions as well as non-political topics--like jello and pudding.
Carol 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Jello shooters are better than kool-aid-------------you should try a few, I think the heat has gotten to you--------------the white , hot heat of reality I mean. Tilsting at all that reality and trying to bend it at the quantum level has done you in-------------jes sayin'
GeminiTwins 1 day ago
+2 Votes
teri, here is what the last two paragraphs of the overview of American Politics says:
Having grown weary of right-wing conservatives expressing loathing and intolerance ,for any position other than their own, most of the topics in this group express a slightly left of center political opinion-and occasionally a left wing opinion.
All are welcome to join ,and comment, including right-wingers who wish to genuinely debate the topic issue.
I think that the rightwing nuts showed up here and went viral.
As for ussnj, he cannot post here any longer without getting fragged, so he left the building.
Having grown weary of right-wing conservatives expressing loathing and intolerance ,for any position other than their own, most of the topics in this group express a slightly left of center political opinion-and occasionally a left wing opinion.
All are welcome to join ,and comment, including right-wingers who wish to genuinely debate the topic issue.
I think that the rightwing nuts showed up here and went viral.
As for ussnj, he cannot post here any longer without getting fragged, so he left the building.
teri 1 day ago
+4 Votes
"...occaisionally a left wing opinion..."?
"...all are welcome to join...." ?
USSNJ doesn't need to post himself to be heard---he can send his minions.
"...all are welcome to join...." ?
USSNJ doesn't need to post himself to be heard---he can send his minions.
dollarinflation 3 days ago
+6 Votes
Carol, in the words of musical giant Lil Wayne:
"Girl you know I hate to see you go, but I love to watch you leave."
"Girl you know I hate to see you go, but I love to watch you leave."
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+3 Votes
You already have what you want in US Politics, little or no dissension.
Why don't you resurrect that group?
You never debate on the issues. All you do is SPAM the group.
Why don't you resurrect that group?
You never debate on the issues. All you do is SPAM the group.
dollarinflation 22 hours ago
+1 Vote
The Tea Party scares the p out of you. Admit it.
Pretty simple what we believe. Limited government, lower taxes, follow the constitution.
What do you believe in flunky?
1773-2009
Pretty simple what we believe. Limited government, lower taxes, follow the constitution.
What do you believe in flunky?
1773-2009
FlunkedAgain 22 hours ago
dollarinflation,
More bumper sticker slogans isn't exactly debate.
The TeaLiban has accomplished what exactly?
I concede that the TeaLiban sent the US Credit Rating into the dumpster.
More bumper sticker slogans isn't exactly debate.
The TeaLiban has accomplished what exactly?
I concede that the TeaLiban sent the US Credit Rating into the dumpster.
Ornithopters 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Too bad Pterosaur's comments were deleted, they were actually quite edifying.
Pterosaur 3 days ago
+5 Votes
This place was a stink hole before, during, and after "Carol's" presence.
Her little coffee klatch was never much of an improvement.
Her little coffee klatch was never much of an improvement.
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Go to US politics if you don't like what Carol does. She started this group, and I have enjoyed many of her comments and topics.
Hey, here's an idea, why don't you start your own group?
Hey, here's an idea, why don't you start your own group?
soccermon 3 days ago
+2 Votes
teri 1 day ago
+3 Votes
Any attempts to speak up on USPolitics in the last several months was squelched by jersey clones---unless of course, you were a jersey clone---then you were allowed to post. The umbrella of acceptability was extended to several others of the chosen few but only if you were not conservative.
So inviting anyone to go back there and post freely is nonsensical.
So inviting anyone to go back there and post freely is nonsensical.
teri 1 day ago
+3 Votes
Carol posted on USPol for a long time.
Who made her the final arbitrator here or there anyway?
Starting a new group means just that---you started a new group.
It doesn't mean you control that group.
AmPol languished for a long time after it's inception--then Dry came over, etc. Then I posted there.
What makes any now think they own it?
Who made her the final arbitrator here or there anyway?
Starting a new group means just that---you started a new group.
It doesn't mean you control that group.
AmPol languished for a long time after it's inception--then Dry came over, etc. Then I posted there.
What makes any now think they own it?
theprofessor 1 day ago
+4 Votes
Hi Teri. I don't know about Jersey clones but I do know that those members who call others fools, liars, or shills just because they disagree with them and those members who call the President a buffoon, communist, liar, criminal, etc. are likely to be zapped by the MW monitors. I always read your posts and respect your opinions, no one has a legitimate reason to frag them.
teri 1 day ago
+2 Votes
Thank you, professor.
I appreciate your support and wondered myself why my posts were being fragged---yet fragged they were---to the tune of 25 in a little over 24 hour's time, one memorable day.
No, I don't think it was the MW monitors.
Out of my almost 89,000 points over 4 or 5 years I have had 138 posts removed---more than half of these in the last 2 months or so. In other words it took over 4 years to lose 69 posts but only 2 months to lose another 69 posts.
So you see, the rate of censorship has excellerated. Many of thes last 69 missing posts addressed the clone problem.
Let's see how long the posts here today last.
I appreciate your support and wondered myself why my posts were being fragged---yet fragged they were---to the tune of 25 in a little over 24 hour's time, one memorable day.
No, I don't think it was the MW monitors.
Out of my almost 89,000 points over 4 or 5 years I have had 138 posts removed---more than half of these in the last 2 months or so. In other words it took over 4 years to lose 69 posts but only 2 months to lose another 69 posts.
So you see, the rate of censorship has excellerated. Many of thes last 69 missing posts addressed the clone problem.
Let's see how long the posts here today last.
snarking.slug 18 hours ago
Teri, I have lost at least as many posts. I've had 100's taken down over the past 6 mos- 1 year. We're fighting the same battle against the same enemy; willful ignorance and intolerance.
snarking.slug 16 hours ago
Just had one pulled down within this hour. All I wrote was Hope and Change are likely to get more people to the polls than angry and scared. Pulled down.
GeminiTwins 1 minute ago
The righties SHOULD start their own group. I promise, I will not go there to bother you righties, as tempting as that would be. You can have a liberal feeding fest 24/7 all by yourselves. Meanwhile, us lefties can blather away here as was meant to be according to the book of Carol.
FlunkedAgain 1 day ago
+3 Votes
teri,
How did the Jersey Clones squelch anything there?
If Jersey can squelch people, why isn't it being done here?
How did the Jersey Clones squelch anything there?
If Jersey can squelch people, why isn't it being done here?
teri 1 day ago
+2 Votes
FA
Why in the world do you think it's not being done here?
They don't squelch people---they squelch attempts to speak up---there's that reading comprehension thing again---and they use the very simple method of repeated RA's that end with the post being eliminated.
The posts of several conservative posters are not allowed to stand more than a few hours at most. before being deleted.
I invite them to speak up here for themselves and let's see.
Why in the world do you think it's not being done here?
They don't squelch people---they squelch attempts to speak up---there's that reading comprehension thing again---and they use the very simple method of repeated RA's that end with the post being eliminated.
The posts of several conservative posters are not allowed to stand more than a few hours at most. before being deleted.
I invite them to speak up here for themselves and let's see.
rick0427 23 hours ago
+2 Votes
teri 23 hours ago
+1 Vote
rick
I'm sorry but you are NOT experiencing the same thing. Your posts remain.
You are allowed to join in the discussion. You may be addressed by people who don't agree but that is not the SAME as being censored.
Several conservative posters have ALL their comments removed ALL the time, even when there is no name calling or abuse going on in the remarks.
How many lefties are experiencing that?
Contrarily you have posters constantly calling us racist bigots and other ugly things. who remain and/or return endlessly.
I'm sorry but you are NOT experiencing the same thing. Your posts remain.
You are allowed to join in the discussion. You may be addressed by people who don't agree but that is not the SAME as being censored.
Several conservative posters have ALL their comments removed ALL the time, even when there is no name calling or abuse going on in the remarks.
How many lefties are experiencing that?
Contrarily you have posters constantly calling us racist bigots and other ugly things. who remain and/or return endlessly.
FlunkedAgain 1 day ago
+1 Vote
teri,
The same thing was happening to me when I replied to dollarinflation.
As he does is spam the board, and run away. If I challenge him, my post disappears.
The same thing was happening to me when I replied to dollarinflation.
As he does is spam the board, and run away. If I challenge him, my post disappears.
dollarinflation 22 hours ago
+2 Votes
frag u flunky,,,,,never fraggged more than one or two posts in my time here and that was for abusing the language,,,,do do do do,,,,do do do do,,,,
franky I don't care what you say,,,,,
1773-2009
franky I don't care what you say,,,,,
1773-2009
FlunkedAgain 1 day ago
+1 Vote
teri said: "One RA is not enough to frag a post."
So, you think dollarinflation isn't a clone or doesn't have clones?
So, you think dollarinflation isn't a clone or doesn't have clones?
Pterosaur 1 day ago
+1 Vote
There have always been a few regulars here who have a direct pipeline to MW Admin, which they use not only to frag comments but to purge accounts as well.
They are all right wingers and we know who they are. Some of them have lobbied for blocking the IP addresses of those whom they don't approve of. That's been the holy grail of the right wing "moderators/fraggers" since day one.
They are all right wingers and we know who they are. Some of them have lobbied for blocking the IP addresses of those whom they don't approve of. That's been the holy grail of the right wing "moderators/fraggers" since day one.
teri 1 day ago
+2 Votes
FA
No.
I don't think dollar is a clone.
How about you? Are you a clone?
Or do you have a direct pipeline to MW?
Ptero
What direct pipeline to MW?
And who would that be?
And if that is so, why do so many righties lose ALL their comments on a regular basis?
I never understand the claims that MW favors right wing posters and philosophy. Have you guys EVER read any of the columnists?
No.
I don't think dollar is a clone.
How about you? Are you a clone?
Or do you have a direct pipeline to MW?
Ptero
What direct pipeline to MW?
And who would that be?
And if that is so, why do so many righties lose ALL their comments on a regular basis?
I never understand the claims that MW favors right wing posters and philosophy. Have you guys EVER read any of the columnists?
dollarinflation 22 hours ago
+1 Vote
Tea's scaring the p out of you flunky.
Too funnnnyyyy,,,,,do do do do ,,,,,
1773-2009
Too funnnnyyyy,,,,,do do do do ,,,,,
1773-2009
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GeminiTwins 21 minutes ago
Pterosaur, I just finished complimenting you and then you come up with a post like the one about Carol which is totally off base. Your post is a black mark on your character and uncalled for.
GeminiTwins 20 minutes ago
Nohelp1 2 days ago
+6 Votes
I have simply made a pledge to myself to not comment, not engage, and not encourage certain posters; such as, fragpolitik, VacuouslyObtuse, and a few others which are most likely the same person. As we witnessed at US Politics, these Say Nothings post one topic after another as fast as they can and push any meaningful topics to the back page or frag any topic or comments that contains facts and knowledge that disprove their opinions.
kingston 1 day ago
+2 Votes
Carol started this site when there was indeed an urgent requirement for a new group. Many came over from US Politics and for a while we had a good outlet for debate. For myself I had a source of knowledge to tap for my study of your history and a less serious interest in your current political scene.
The history stuff is still as engrossing as ever but the Politics are trashed on this site. Just recently we have seen the modern day version of the Salem Witch trials as a bill has been challenged through the Supreme Court and then the verdict trashed by the right. There appears to be no insult both sides are not prepared to throw in order to demonstrate their hatred and ignorance.
Cheers from Aussie and I trust Carol returns sometime in the future. less
The history stuff is still as engrossing as ever but the Politics are trashed on this site. Just recently we have seen the modern day version of the Salem Witch trials as a bill has been challenged through the Supreme Court and then the verdict trashed by the right. There appears to be no insult both sides are not prepared to throw in order to demonstrate their hatred and ignorance.
Cheers from Aussie and I trust Carol returns sometime in the future. less
BeesBe 1 day ago
+2 Votes
If you look at US history through the same blurred glasses as you view our current struggle you truly do not have an understanding of history especially ours. What is going on in the United States is a fight for the Republic. If we lose our republic we lose all our freedoms and that is not a fight we can afford to lose. So excuse us if we do not play nice, we are at war and everything is at stake.
dollarinflation 22 hours ago
+1 Vote
Agreed BeesBe,,,split the baby with a Marxist and you still end up with a dead baby.
1773-2009
1773-2009
kingston 1 day ago
+2 Votes
B.B
Here we have a dilemma. If you debate and find a way, in the same manner as the delegates to the Continental Congress, there is hope. Never in your history has there been such a deep divide in policy ideals. Yet they got it done with some timely advice from Ben Franklin.
Now, you have an even greater problem; not the survival of the Republic as you imagine but the survival of world public opinion and confidence in your great country.
Could you imagine Bretton Woods if held tomorrow, would resolve that America be the worlds reserve currency with all the advantages that gave your nation ( perfectly justified at the time()
Now you are fighting over flawed ideologies which have morphed out of the catastrophic governance, by both parties of the finance sector.
Your Republic does not need to fight within itself, it requires all Americans to join the single side and fight for country and nation rather than some ideological mad house we see at present.
Cheers from Aussie less
Here we have a dilemma. If you debate and find a way, in the same manner as the delegates to the Continental Congress, there is hope. Never in your history has there been such a deep divide in policy ideals. Yet they got it done with some timely advice from Ben Franklin.
Now, you have an even greater problem; not the survival of the Republic as you imagine but the survival of world public opinion and confidence in your great country.
Could you imagine Bretton Woods if held tomorrow, would resolve that America be the worlds reserve currency with all the advantages that gave your nation ( perfectly justified at the time()
Now you are fighting over flawed ideologies which have morphed out of the catastrophic governance, by both parties of the finance sector.
Your Republic does not need to fight within itself, it requires all Americans to join the single side and fight for country and nation rather than some ideological mad house we see at present.
Cheers from Aussie less
rick0427 1 day ago
+1 Vote
King you do have a good perspective on our history, maybe better then B's. We as a country have struggled with issues over our history, formation, states rights, slavery, equality, etc, but each was solved as you mention by the coming together of the moderate minds of both sides. Powerful politicians and leaders that could sway even the fringes of their parties to come up with workable solutions to every problem. Unfortunately today' s America is pretty much void of the Franklin, Jefferson types as we have allowed money and lobbyists to steal our government from the people. Both sides have been involved in this theft, I exclude no one. But yes my friend you do get it.
dollarinflation 22 hours ago
+1 Vote
"join the single side"
What the " " does that mean kings?
Unlike you,,,who still live under a queenie,,,we are a people free to debate. We shall retain that right.
1773-2009
What the " " does that mean kings?
Unlike you,,,who still live under a queenie,,,we are a people free to debate. We shall retain that right.
1773-2009
kingston 15 hours ago
Dollar
My thanks and I agree with you in part. However, you err in suggesting we do not have the right to debate. Sadly the political debate here is almost as vitriolic as it is in America. I think we have aped your major parties and our standards have been lowered as a result.
I submit debate is all well and good but when it pulls a nation apart as it engenders hatred among its citizens then there is something seriously wrong...
To respond to your question, look to history and the response of the American people when Japan attacked Pear Harbour. Until that time America was deeply divided as to your possible participation, afterwards most everyone "joined the single side"
Cheers from Aussie
My thanks and I agree with you in part. However, you err in suggesting we do not have the right to debate. Sadly the political debate here is almost as vitriolic as it is in America. I think we have aped your major parties and our standards have been lowered as a result.
I submit debate is all well and good but when it pulls a nation apart as it engenders hatred among its citizens then there is something seriously wrong...
To respond to your question, look to history and the response of the American people when Japan attacked Pear Harbour. Until that time America was deeply divided as to your possible participation, afterwards most everyone "joined the single side"
Cheers from Aussie
RicFlair 1 day ago
+2 Votes
Carol baby, you throw a little diversity at a liberal and it's all over; they come apart at the seams gal!
DublTrubl 1 hour ago
+1 Vote
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JimBob
As usual, you're not making any sense. All you are doing is a mindless repetition of the GOP's reverse racism trope in support of your right wing friends while obscuring the absolute fact that this site has been repeatedly flooded with dozens of overtly racist clones, who are up front and proud about their racism. I believe you have proudly counted yourself among them in certain unguarded moments, and you have been an aggressive Birther at times, as well. This site has been birther central and will likely be so again before November.
You are the ones who constantly reduce it to race and racism, with the occasional foray into absurd McCarthyite claims of socialism and other hoary forms of Red baiting and the kind of fear and hate mongering that always goes hand in glove with fascism.
There is rarely any intelligent, objective criticism of Obama here. It is all emotional, hot-button stuff, from the belly of the talk radio beast and the Fox News/GOP propagandists."
As usual, you're not making any sense. All you are doing is a mindless repetition of the GOP's reverse racism trope in support of your right wing friends while obscuring the absolute fact that this site has been repeatedly flooded with dozens of overtly racist clones, who are up front and proud about their racism. I believe you have proudly counted yourself among them in certain unguarded moments, and you have been an aggressive Birther at times, as well. This site has been birther central and will likely be so again before November.
You are the ones who constantly reduce it to race and racism, with the occasional foray into absurd McCarthyite claims of socialism and other hoary forms of Red baiting and the kind of fear and hate mongering that always goes hand in glove with fascism.
There is rarely any intelligent, objective criticism of Obama here. It is all emotional, hot-button stuff, from the belly of the talk radio beast and the Fox News/GOP propagandists."
"
teri: "There is also criticism of Obama that is NOT rooted in racism. To deny the possibility of the latter is tremendously short sighted and, well, racist itself."
You are repeating the Fox News/Breitbart/Glenn Beck reverse racism trope, like the mindless GOP anti-Obama automaton you are.
I don't support Obama on these pages. As a matter of fact I have been deeply critical of him as the face of the corrupt DLC wing of the ruling corporate duopoly. The only time Obama looks good to me is in comparison to the even more corrupt, morally and intellectually bankrupt and profoundly incompetent GOP leadership. He has had some pretty impressive political accomplishments in the face of all-out partisan obstructionism from the GOP, while carrying himself with an intelligence and dignity light years beyond Bush, Romney, or any GOP standard bearer.
I certainly don't need any instruction on Obama's failings, or the GOP's tired reverse racism trope, especially from the likes of you."
You are repeating the Fox News/Breitbart/Glenn Beck reverse racism trope, like the mindless GOP anti-Obama automaton you are.
I don't support Obama on these pages. As a matter of fact I have been deeply critical of him as the face of the corrupt DLC wing of the ruling corporate duopoly. The only time Obama looks good to me is in comparison to the even more corrupt, morally and intellectually bankrupt and profoundly incompetent GOP leadership. He has had some pretty impressive political accomplishments in the face of all-out partisan obstructionism from the GOP, while carrying himself with an intelligence and dignity light years beyond Bush, Romney, or any GOP standard bearer.
I certainly don't need any instruction on Obama's failings, or the GOP's tired reverse racism trope, especially from the likes of you."
There have always been a few regulars here who have a direct pipeline to MW Admin, which they use not only to frag comments but to purge accounts as well.
They are all right wingers and we know who they are. Some of them have lobbied for blocking the IP addresses of those whom they don't approve of. That's been the holy grail of the right wing "moderators/fraggers" since day one."
They are all right wingers and we know who they are. Some of them have lobbied for blocking the IP addresses of those whom they don't approve of. That's been the holy grail of the right wing "moderators/fraggers" since day one."
teri: ".... serial clones and simultaneous clones. ... I can tell the difference. I just have no liking for either kind"
I have no liking for your kind either... obsequious, smug, authoritarian, dim-witted.
It's just my opinion. Do you have to be bathed with praise and approbation before allowing others to speak? You and your "byrd alerts," while you tolerate... and support... a profusion of overt racists and right wing bigots. Good lord.
... and you seem to tolerate, no, support, the endless stream of racist and otherwise scurrilous attacks on Obama, yet you are exercised by a bit of partisan cheerleading for the current president. There is something deeply, smugly, wrong with that."
I have no liking for your kind either... obsequious, smug, authoritarian, dim-witted.
It's just my opinion. Do you have to be bathed with praise and approbation before allowing others to speak? You and your "byrd alerts," while you tolerate... and support... a profusion of overt racists and right wing bigots. Good lord.
... and you seem to tolerate, no, support, the endless stream of racist and otherwise scurrilous attacks on Obama, yet you are exercised by a bit of partisan cheerleading for the current president. There is something deeply, smugly, wrong with that."
You and your "byrd alerts"... leading the group of krazykats, angies, BullWhippers, gottaloveits, and others....
.... but never calling out " ... “BackoftheBus”….."Blue Gum"... "housenagger" .... "Sambo" ... "Irish Jig"... ..." lawnjockie" ..." ..." WHSquatter"… “OurMuttKohl,”… “CollardGuy” … “Scrub Me Mamma”… “Chuck A Spear“…. TxRoadRash"… "… “cmon2012redux”… "BouncingJames".... "LanceLofter" … javelinist……“lanai macaque”… “soon2bbutler”...
.... among dozens (literally) of other Klansmen who were given the run of this place, as well as US Politics."
.... but never calling out " ... “BackoftheBus”….."Blue Gum"... "housenagger" .... "Sambo" ... "Irish Jig"... ..." lawnjockie" ..." ..." WHSquatter"… “OurMuttKohl,”… “CollardGuy” … “Scrub Me Mamma”… “Chuck A Spear“…. TxRoadRash"… "… “cmon2012redux”… "BouncingJames".... "LanceLofter" … javelinist……“lanai macaque”… “soon2bbutler”...
.... among dozens (literally) of other Klansmen who were given the run of this place, as well as US Politics."
teri; "speaking of clones....that IS you after all, byrd, isn't it?"
You seem to be confusing "clones" with those whose accounts were unjustly fragged by Carol, you, gottaloveit, dhd and others,
This necessitated creation of a new account under a new screen name in order to defend oneself. There are several regular posters here who have needed to create new accounts in order to defend themselves. This is a far different phenomenon than the racist right wing cloning which has dominated these pages. It is just like you to pretend not to understand the difference. You have minimized or defended the proliferation of right wing bigots and their dozens of true clones (with fragging privileges). Your willful ignorance cannot hide your hypocrisy."
You seem to be confusing "clones" with those whose accounts were unjustly fragged by Carol, you, gottaloveit, dhd and others,
This necessitated creation of a new account under a new screen name in order to defend oneself. There are several regular posters here who have needed to create new accounts in order to defend themselves. This is a far different phenomenon than the racist right wing cloning which has dominated these pages. It is just like you to pretend not to understand the difference. You have minimized or defended the proliferation of right wing bigots and their dozens of true clones (with fragging privileges). Your willful ignorance cannot hide your hypocrisy."
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