BringTheUnionsBack 22 hours ago
Just thinking out loud.
BringTheUnionsBack 3 days ago
+1 Vote
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+1 Vote
TheScott 3 days ago
+4 Votes
I had to think about that one for a minute and I will have to say that you are probably very right......
Up to the point that gays took their private choices and activities and decided the up end about 4000 years of societal tradition of uniting one man/one woman couples (otherwise known as the basis for a family unit) by again attempting to force societal change with law. One just has to wonder why, if gays have been a percentage of society all along, how come society rejected their personal choice as part of the main stream. I bear no malice towards a gay person doing what they do in private any more than anyone should have a problem with me walking around my house in the buff.... its when I take it out on the streets that things get ugly.... less
Up to the point that gays took their private choices and activities and decided the up end about 4000 years of societal tradition of uniting one man/one woman couples (otherwise known as the basis for a family unit) by again attempting to force societal change with law. One just has to wonder why, if gays have been a percentage of society all along, how come society rejected their personal choice as part of the main stream. I bear no malice towards a gay person doing what they do in private any more than anyone should have a problem with me walking around my house in the buff.... its when I take it out on the streets that things get ugly.... less
pfunky2222 3 days ago
+2 Votes
@TheScott
So how old were you when you made that "personal choice" to be straight? Was it a tough choice? How long were you sitting on the fence, "Hmmm, do I want the kilbasi or the tacos?"
Was it really a choice?
So how old were you when you made that "personal choice" to be straight? Was it a tough choice? How long were you sitting on the fence, "Hmmm, do I want the kilbasi or the tacos?"
Was it really a choice?
TheScott 2 days ago
+1 Vote
pfunky - No more of a choice than if you choose to shoplift or not..... Most things become a conscious decision when your thoughts and desires run contrary to accepted social norms. If you never have the desire to steal something from a store, you never think about being a thief. Not the greatest example but you get my point. Probably the first time I was presented with the choice was when I was in my late teens....that is when I started understanding that it, like most sexual deviations, are a choice. Once you make a choice in that regard... you and only you decide where it will lead. I once met a girl who had an anorexia disorder and though her counselling she admitted that she could only 'make love' to her dog. The whys and wherefore's I never knew but I am sure that however contrived, choice was their somewhere.... less
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+1 Vote
TheScott said: "that gays took their private choices"
What makes you think that it's a choice? Young boys sometimes exhibit feminine traits. Do you think they made a conscious choice to throw like a girl?
I didn't make a choice to throw left handed. We aren't left or right handed by choice are we?
What makes you think that it's a choice? Young boys sometimes exhibit feminine traits. Do you think they made a conscious choice to throw like a girl?
I didn't make a choice to throw left handed. We aren't left or right handed by choice are we?
TheScott 3 days ago
+1 Vote
Researchers have located, identified and proven the 'left handed gene'....
Some studies on the subject also conclude that if you have the left handed gene you are more predisposed to ....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6923577.stm
Thoughts?
Some studies on the subject also conclude that if you have the left handed gene you are more predisposed to ....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6923577.stm
Thoughts?
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Thanks for the link Scott,
""""
There is evidence to suggest there are some significant differences between left and right-handed people.
Australian research published last year found left-handed people can think quicker when carrying out tasks such as playing computer games or playing sport.
And French researchers concluded that being left-handed could be an advantage in hand-to-hand combat.
"""
While working as a Computer Programmer, I found that Left Handed people were generally recognized for producing superior work by their peers.
But what do I know, I'm crazy.
""""
There is evidence to suggest there are some significant differences between left and right-handed people.
Australian research published last year found left-handed people can think quicker when carrying out tasks such as playing computer games or playing sport.
And French researchers concluded that being left-handed could be an advantage in hand-to-hand combat.
"""
While working as a Computer Programmer, I found that Left Handed people were generally recognized for producing superior work by their peers.
But what do I know, I'm crazy.
BringTheUnionsBack 2 days ago
+2 Votes
I can't prove your theory -- but my own anctedotal experience informs me of the same/similar.
My two siblings with doctorates (maybe just coincidence) are left handed. While the rest of us (non PHD) are righties.
My mother told me that in old-time Ireland -- that it was considered very Protestant (anti-Catholic) to be wholly reliant on one's right hand. The Irish also would supposedly attempt to favor their left legs as well when digging holes, farming, etc..
An Irish spade/shovel were actually designed/made differently than Brit spades.
It was considered 'higher learning' or to be further refined (as a 'Catholic') if one was left handed/left footed. It was a statement.
... />Of course my Galway mother is both so as to confuse the matter -- although she favors the left considerably.
In fact as a response to this Catholic nonsense/rebellion to the 'traditional', right-handed ways of the Brits. The Brits would call those that are left-handed/footed as "Kerry" or "Left-Kelly". less
My two siblings with doctorates (maybe just coincidence) are left handed. While the rest of us (non PHD) are righties.
My mother told me that in old-time Ireland -- that it was considered very Protestant (anti-Catholic) to be wholly reliant on one's right hand. The Irish also would supposedly attempt to favor their left legs as well when digging holes, farming, etc..
An Irish spade/shovel were actually designed/made differently than Brit spades.
It was considered 'higher learning' or to be further refined (as a 'Catholic') if one was left handed/left footed. It was a statement.
... />Of course my Galway mother is both so as to confuse the matter -- although she favors the left considerably.
In fact as a response to this Catholic nonsense/rebellion to the 'traditional', right-handed ways of the Brits. The Brits would call those that are left-handed/footed as "Kerry" or "Left-Kelly". less
FlunkedAgain 2 days ago
+2 Votes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handedness_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
As of 2012, five out of the last seven presidents have been left-handed.
According to Daniel Geschwind, a professor of human genetics at UCLA, in 2008: "Six out of the past 12 presidents (being Left handed) is statistically significant, and probably means something".
Amar Klar, a scientist who has worked on handedness, says that left-handed people "have a wider scope of thinking", and points to the disproportionately high number of Nobel Prize winners, writers and painters who are left-handed.
As of 2012, five out of the last seven presidents have been left-handed.
According to Daniel Geschwind, a professor of human genetics at UCLA, in 2008: "Six out of the past 12 presidents (being Left handed) is statistically significant, and probably means something".
Amar Klar, a scientist who has worked on handedness, says that left-handed people "have a wider scope of thinking", and points to the disproportionately high number of Nobel Prize winners, writers and painters who are left-handed.
TheScott 3 days ago
+6 Votes
God created serial killers, paedophiles and psychopaths too... Thoughts?
sk6actual 3 days ago
+6 Votes
Or if, as some believe, there is no 'god' ... what then? Who, scratch that, WHAT created what?
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
TheScott 3 days ago
+6 Votes
Correction...... SOME of the People who created the Constitution, believed there is no God.
Cougardan 3 days ago
+5 Votes
http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html
....good correction Scott.....the link above provides the backgrounds.
....good correction Scott.....the link above provides the backgrounds.
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
You are correct Scott, but that fact would lead one to question the proposition that the Constitution was a work of God.
“I established the Constitution of this land,” said the Lord, “by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose”
It makes you wonder why God's work had to be amended.
“I established the Constitution of this land,” said the Lord, “by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose”
It makes you wonder why God's work had to be amended.
TheScott 3 days ago
+5 Votes
Flunked - I could be as smarta$$ and say that the defects were injected by the non religious participants..... but I will just say that ain't no one perfect regardless their attempt to be so..... God knew it... he said so...
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+1 Vote
TheScott,
It depends on which Holy Book you read.
Other Religions subscribed to the Divine Right of Kings. When Church and State develop a symbiotic relationship, each supports the other to the detriment of the People.
The contents of the Christian Bible was a collaboration between Church and State, and as such should be viewed with skepticism. To disagree with The Powers That Be of that time carried the death penalty, and it went on for centuries.
It depends on which Holy Book you read.
Other Religions subscribed to the Divine Right of Kings. When Church and State develop a symbiotic relationship, each supports the other to the detriment of the People.
The contents of the Christian Bible was a collaboration between Church and State, and as such should be viewed with skepticism. To disagree with The Powers That Be of that time carried the death penalty, and it went on for centuries.
BringTheUnionsBack 3 days ago
+1 Vote
...and we JAIL them.
Are you suggesting that GAYS are criminal and/or criminally insane?
Are you suggesting that GAYS are criminal and/or criminally insane?
TheScott 3 days ago
+6 Votes
I think that the vast majority of psychopaths are merely social deviants at best given that the definition of a psychopath is characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for the feelings of others and often the rules of society..... but who said they were criminally insane? I just said that god created them and god will sort them out.... as a society however we have the right as a unit to marginalise any behaviours that we do not think fits with our social or cultural mores.... Gays, like psychopaths and any other aberration of a society have the right to privacy and to live in peace as long as they harm no one else......they just don't have the right to forced acceptance by the state.
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+1 Vote
The Scott said: "Gays, like psychopaths and any other aberration of a society"
They may be an aberration, but not of Society, but of Nature. Would you label Midgets or Dwarfs as an abberation?
We are all free to associate with whomever we please, but we are not free to persecute others simply because they are different.
They may be an aberration, but not of Society, but of Nature. Would you label Midgets or Dwarfs as an abberation?
We are all free to associate with whomever we please, but we are not free to persecute others simply because they are different.
TheScott 3 days ago
+5 Votes
While Midgets or Dwarfs are indeed aberrations to the norm and while they may request certain features in facilities to accommodate their size or physical ability, the do not try to force society to change the way it functions to suit them and to attempt to change the function of family and extended family to suite them..... they just need a chair suitable to their stature but they do not attempt to force every restaurant, hotel and public institution to provide one for them....
I would take exception to the statement that they are an aberration to nature then a persons love of boats and all things nautical rather than airplanes.... please cite proof.
I would take exception to the statement that they are an aberration to nature then a persons love of boats and all things nautical rather than airplanes.... please cite proof.
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+1 Vote
TheScott said: "I would take exception to the statement that they (gays) are an aberration to nature..... please sight proof."
2 male dogs may couple. (Usually on your front lawn, when the Bishop is visiting.)
The Bonobo, a primate similar to a chimpanzee, has quite a varied sex life. Homosexual acts involving both males and females is fairly common.
You might want to start with wiki,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo
2 male dogs may couple. (Usually on your front lawn, when the Bishop is visiting.)
The Bonobo, a primate similar to a chimpanzee, has quite a varied sex life. Homosexual acts involving both males and females is fairly common.
You might want to start with wiki,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo
TheScott 3 days ago
+1 Vote
Flunked - Your point is that because this monkey species in which females are dominate and use sex as a method of male control, 'causing' males to sex anything that moves as a de-stressing mechanism, should lead us to mainsteam the gay lifestyle and codify it as a 'natural' equal to that of one man one woman relationships? Nothing indicates a genetic disposition to the activity, as a matter of fact, to the contrary, it appears to be a learned behavior due to the social structure. Of the few societies that have elevated the same sex relationship to any social prominence, 1) none persisted and 2)some also allowed for the mentoring of 'young' boys by young men (teens to early 30's). Should we follow that historical view and entertain the beliefs of NAMBLA as well? While I don't know that a high level of promiscuity is healthy for a society, I want people to have the privacy of their bedrooms.....> less
TheScott 3 days ago
+1 Vote
I do have a problem with the implications to our social order if we use your link as guidance. Perhaps this is why the radical side of the feminist movement, early on, aligned itself with the gay movement, encouraging gay men to 'come out'. Perhaps they too studied the social structure of the Pygmy Chimpanzee as a model for their idea of a future social order....
I find it interesting bantering issues with liberals. They are indeed a funny lot. One time you can argue a point and you are called a social Darwinist and in the next moment, they bring up the fact that we should emulate the behaviors of a primate society. I think it stems from the fact that Democrats are a loosely connected group of 'I wants' and the alliance garners voting power for all... As a matter of fact, it is exactly the way congress works.... you support my time and money wasting legislation and I will support yours.... less
I find it interesting bantering issues with liberals. They are indeed a funny lot. One time you can argue a point and you are called a social Darwinist and in the next moment, they bring up the fact that we should emulate the behaviors of a primate society. I think it stems from the fact that Democrats are a loosely connected group of 'I wants' and the alliance garners voting power for all... As a matter of fact, it is exactly the way congress works.... you support my time and money wasting legislation and I will support yours.... less
FlunkedAgain 2 days ago
+1 Vote
TheScott said: "they bring up the fact that we should emulate the behaviors of a primate society. "
I never said that.
I answered your request for substantiation "I would take exception to the statement that they (gays) are an aberration to nature..... please sight proof."
ROJO has more Information that he posted below.
I never said that.
I answered your request for substantiation "I would take exception to the statement that they (gays) are an aberration to nature..... please sight proof."
ROJO has more Information that he posted below.
TheScott 2 days ago
+1 Vote
So... why don't you be clear in what you are putting forth.... I think that I have made my position and perspective quit clear.... you love nothing but to nit pic what people say but ignore the actual point of the comments.... while you might be able to point to lots of social structure issues which creates 'gay' behaviour in the animal world, you have shown me no reason to believe that elevating the status of gays to that of NORMAL behaviour would be beneficial to a healthy society and yes it is a natural as well as social aberration because 'gay' does not, can not exist in isolation so it is deviant behaviour caused by societal structures. Rojo's comments below only point out one, what appears to be naturally occurring example... and from a little follow on reading might be a chemical imbalance before birth..... in all other cases in society we call it an imbalance and prescribe drugs for the 'condition'... less
BringTheUnionsBack 3 days ago
+2 Votes
re: ...Jeffrey Dahmer?
...and 90% of serial killers have been white, heterosexual men.
...and 90% of serial killers have been white, heterosexual men.
eBud 3 days ago
+9 Votes
Yeah, Jeff had a taste for the gay life as well as his lovers...the proof was in his refrigerator.
Bellum 3 days ago
+4 Votes
BringTheUnionsBack -
Assuming there are Gods, I posit they care not what happens to the 'gays'. They created 'gays' to give those among you of lesser minds something to be bothered about. And, that , for the Gods, is the sport of Gods.
Cheers,
Assuming there are Gods, I posit they care not what happens to the 'gays'. They created 'gays' to give those among you of lesser minds something to be bothered about. And, that , for the Gods, is the sport of Gods.
Cheers,
RicFlair 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Bellum baby, anybody that's got you believing you exist for their sport and amusements ain't a god worth associating with if you're a real man pal!
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+1 Vote
Then you, like myself and Thomas Jefferson, reject the Old Testament God, but for different reasons.
The Garden of Eden was a zoo.
The Garden of Eden was a zoo.
Cougardan 3 days ago
+4 Votes
That would be .....wrong associations for sure.....unless Dionysus is making a modern day appearance!
Bellum 3 days ago
+2 Votes
RicFlair -
You need to get out more.
Take poker for example. There are some that will play you for sport, and take you for all you have, and they will have never played one hand as a game.
Situational awareness trumps belief every time. If you don't have situational awareness, you are some one's sport. No matter how real a 'real' man you are.
Cheers,
You need to get out more.
Take poker for example. There are some that will play you for sport, and take you for all you have, and they will have never played one hand as a game.
Situational awareness trumps belief every time. If you don't have situational awareness, you are some one's sport. No matter how real a 'real' man you are.
Cheers,
RicFlair 2 days ago
+2 Votes
Bellum baby, if I believed that God was somebody who played you the way you described, I'd be an atheist just like you are, except that'd be a catch 22 pal!
BringTheUnionsBack 3 days ago
+1 Vote
re: ...Jeffrey Dahmer?
...and 90% of serial killers have been predominantly white, heterosexual men.
...and 90% of serial killers have been predominantly white, heterosexual men.
RicFlair 3 days ago
+5 Votes
Union baby, God created Hitler and Obama too, so what's your prize here pal?
BringTheUnionsBack 3 days ago
+4 Votes
He also created Andre' The Giant.
A man I met and shook hands with as he had visited my high school on some 'career' day kind of event.
Gentle soul -- large man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_the_Giant
A man I met and shook hands with as he had visited my high school on some 'career' day kind of event.
Gentle soul -- large man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_the_Giant
Cougardan 3 days ago
+4 Votes
One awesome person....he played a role in the movie the Princess Bride....I have always wondered just how little he had to act that part out and how much we see the real person.
Rumpled 3 days ago
+8 Votes
So who was responsible for creating mosquitoes . . . ?
. . . I'd like to have a word with her.
. . . I'd like to have a word with her.
BringTheUnionsBack 3 days ago
+5 Votes
re: mosquitoes.
I remember thinking as a young boy that if there was a god, and as my nuns had taught me -- he (it) was merciful, and that this same god created 'all things', then there was absolutely no way in @#$%&! there was a god given the existence of mosquitoes.
I remember thinking as a young boy that if there was a god, and as my nuns had taught me -- he (it) was merciful, and that this same god created 'all things', then there was absolutely no way in @#$%&! there was a god given the existence of mosquitoes.
Bellum 3 days ago
+1 Vote
RicFlair -
You go a bit too far now.
I posit, skipping over the 'God created' bit, that forces bigger than you caused the production of baby Adolf and baby Barack. That said, you appear to totally discount the concept of will, aka free will, and the effect of one's environment. Surely you do not hold that you, Mr. Obama, and Mr. Hitler (past tense as regards Mr. Hitler) have some individual control over your respectives actions? If so (this is the entertaing bit), you completely nullify all anglo-american (others as well I'm sure) criminal law. Mens rea and all that.
Cheers,
You go a bit too far now.
I posit, skipping over the 'God created' bit, that forces bigger than you caused the production of baby Adolf and baby Barack. That said, you appear to totally discount the concept of will, aka free will, and the effect of one's environment. Surely you do not hold that you, Mr. Obama, and Mr. Hitler (past tense as regards Mr. Hitler) have some individual control over your respectives actions? If so (this is the entertaing bit), you completely nullify all anglo-american (others as well I'm sure) criminal law. Mens rea and all that.
Cheers,
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+2 Votes
RicFlair 3 days ago
+6 Votes
Bellum baby, I ain't ever been accused of being a mister milk-toast and never will be.
Bottom line is gays have as much control over their actions as Obama, wife cheaters and pedophiles unless you wanna concede they got a mental defect that prevents em from exercising their free will pal!
Bottom line is gays have as much control over their actions as Obama, wife cheaters and pedophiles unless you wanna concede they got a mental defect that prevents em from exercising their free will pal!
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+2 Votes
RickFlair,
Some Religions don't approve of Free Will. They discourage questioning their authority by claiming that they represent God, and if you question their pronouncements, you are questioning God.
Subservience to Church Leaders accustoms people to other forms of Subservience. When a person relinquishes their right to question authority, they place their Freedom, and the Freedom of others in jeopardy.
The evidence appears to support the contention that homosexuality is natural, and if nature is God's work, so is homosexuality.
Some Religions don't approve of Free Will. They discourage questioning their authority by claiming that they represent God, and if you question their pronouncements, you are questioning God.
Subservience to Church Leaders accustoms people to other forms of Subservience. When a person relinquishes their right to question authority, they place their Freedom, and the Freedom of others in jeopardy.
The evidence appears to support the contention that homosexuality is natural, and if nature is God's work, so is homosexuality.
RicFlair 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Go ahead and enlighten us, list those oppressive anti-free will religions out there flunked baby!
Bellum 3 days ago
+4 Votes
RicFlair -
Not questioning your milk toastness, simply observing the rationality of your argument is flirting with irrationality.
Cheers,
Not questioning your milk toastness, simply observing the rationality of your argument is flirting with irrationality.
Cheers,
RicFlair 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Bellum baby, that's always where the break throughs happen, and I don't see ya refuting the mental deficiency theory either pal!
Bellum 3 days ago
+3 Votes
RicFlair -
I have no doubt there are some that have experienced what they thought was a true Eureka moment by and through irrational thought.
What one thinks he has experienced and one has actually experienced are rarely the same thing when irrationality is at play.
Cheers,
I have no doubt there are some that have experienced what they thought was a true Eureka moment by and through irrational thought.
What one thinks he has experienced and one has actually experienced are rarely the same thing when irrationality is at play.
Cheers,
RicFlair 2 days ago
+1 Vote
Bellum baby, perception is always a function of the perceiver. You ain't never experienced such a break-through, its only natural to judge based on your own limited experiences pal!
ROJODEE 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Research has shown that the environmental pollutant methylmercury can increase the prevalence of homosexual behavior in male American White Ibis. The study involved exposing chicks in varying dosages to the chemical and measuring the degree of homosexual behavior in adulthood. The results discovered was that as the dosage was increased the likelihood of homosexual behavior also increased. The endocrine blocking feature of mercury has been suggested as a possible cause of sexual disruption in other bird species..[ Wiki] ....hmmmm...lot of that chemical has been expelled over the last hundred years or so...wonder if there is a corrolation in humans??
Cougardan 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Did not know that ROJO....we have both expressed points of view that Mother Nature rules all but that mankind can alter some bits and pieces.....this one deserves full attention.....nice to end a week learning something new.
AnalogAnomaly 3 days ago
+5 Votes
From what I read the pollutant makes them more likely to nest with males (aka, become bachelors), not attempt to mate with males. Big difference.
Homosexuality seems to be a fetish like any other.
Homosexuality seems to be a fetish like any other.
RicFlair 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Rojo baby it all boils down to this: an unhealthy planet produces unhealthy humans pal!
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+2 Votes
RicFlair 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Flunked baby, you think the EPA has got a monopoly on a healthful planet? You're sounding more and more like a capitalist every day pal!
AnalogAnomaly 3 days ago
+6 Votes
I dont see how it is anyones business who is sleeping with who. But if you are going to get all in my face waving your arms and yelling at me demanding i approve of who you are sleeping with, then I have a serious problem with you.
Bellum 3 days ago
+4 Votes
'Tis the conservative way to impose their will upon others though law.
And, in today's America, there's a lot of money to be made, as well as egos to be bolstered, through the process of intermeddling.
Cheers,
And, in today's America, there's a lot of money to be made, as well as egos to be bolstered, through the process of intermeddling.
Cheers,
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+2 Votes
War is Money.
If you can incite people to a point where Reason is overridden by Fear, the primitive brain prevails.
If you can incite people to a point where Reason is overridden by Fear, the primitive brain prevails.
RicFlair 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Bellum baby, does this mean you're gonna stop pushing taxes on citizens outside of your country pal?
Bellum 3 days ago
+2 Votes
RicFlair -
I wasn't aware I was 'pushing' taxes on anyone, much less those outside my country (assuming I have a country).
But, now that you've broached the subject: I find it appropriate to assess a cost on those enjoying/profiting/taking advantage of, etc. one's society/state, infrastructure, lines of communication, etc., etc. if that other avails himself of the benefits of that society/state, even of that other is not of that society/state. It matters not whether you call it a tax, license, fee, tariff, etc.
Cheers,
I wasn't aware I was 'pushing' taxes on anyone, much less those outside my country (assuming I have a country).
But, now that you've broached the subject: I find it appropriate to assess a cost on those enjoying/profiting/taking advantage of, etc. one's society/state, infrastructure, lines of communication, etc., etc. if that other avails himself of the benefits of that society/state, even of that other is not of that society/state. It matters not whether you call it a tax, license, fee, tariff, etc.
Cheers,
RicFlair 2 days ago
+1 Vote
CrazyMarine 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Value issues, such as abortion, homosexuality etc are carrots on a stick used to help people to root against their own best interests, a distraction serves to limit one,s time that could be used to analyze more complex and pressing issues that really affect our nations future. It,s had that exact affect here tonight, why discuss joblessness, free trade, or even the national debt when where some one else places his our her sexual equiptment is on the board.
Cougardan 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Agreed....the topic matter is a great one to discuss but postings veered off path leaving your statement the end conclusion....the thread could have easily tied into your quest for complex but some great thoughts are found on this one....all in all today, there has been great work written in our extended family back here.....worth noting the positive today!
CrazyMarine 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Everybody seemed on their game tonight Dan it was informative and educational, I suppose the gay issue does increase one,s cognitive thinking powers through practice, so no harm no foul, but that carrot on a stick problem is a real concern, a technique much used by tyrants and crooks alike, the old shell game if you will.
RicFlair 2 days ago
+2 Votes
Marine baby, leave it to a jarhead to describe it as sexual equipment. What kind of women are going for that line pal?
kingston 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Some interesting comments but a shortage of "Debate:” here today. At one point a post introduced religion and blamed God for creating homosexuality. Should this be the case, I wonder why all atheists are not straight. Speaking for myself, and standing on my record. I certainly fit that definition.
ANALOG ANOMALY posts a good point, but then Gods cannot exist without a noisy clamour from their supporters proclaiming their own immortality. I do think there is a lot of fears about, particularly fear of the "Big Black:" which awaits us all.
Cheers from Aussie
ANALOG ANOMALY posts a good point, but then Gods cannot exist without a noisy clamour from their supporters proclaiming their own immortality. I do think there is a lot of fears about, particularly fear of the "Big Black:" which awaits us all.
Cheers from Aussie
Cougardan 3 days ago
+1 Vote
K!........review all of today carefully....it actually was excellent debate...MW makes us keep it short and sweet so within those confines there was an excellent day for this extended family today....maybe a turning point is a better description.....Analog got in and out with excellence....so did you today....CM smelled a good day too being cooked....reconsider my friend....maybe I can sway ya!....but thanks for an excellent week of work and care.
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+1 Vote
kingston said; "blamed God for creating homosexuality. Should this be the case, I wonder why all atheists are not straight."
Sorry kingston, but this logic is flawed.
If they had said "Belief in God", your logic would have been sound.
Sorry kingston, but this logic is flawed.
If they had said "Belief in God", your logic would have been sound.
RicFlair 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Union baby, God ain't telling gays to do something self destructive, he's telling just exactly the opposite pal!
nativespirit 3 days ago
+2 Votes
After reading this whole debate, I guess my thoughts lead to this: Everything was hunky-dory in the garden before sin. No death, no pain etc... As soon as Eve ate from the tree, sin was introduced. So, what y'all are talking about is a sin problem/ We all have it whether we acknowledge it or not. Your relationship with the Creator is Yours, no one else's. What you do with it is your decision. That's Free Will. Quite a gift if you ask me. A blessing and a curse depending on your choices. You are the sum of all of your decisions.
Oh, and "every knee shall bow..."
Oh, and "every knee shall bow..."
Rumpled 3 days ago
+1 Vote
I've been through the 4-way window pane -- I've visited a few gardens -- seen the mescal lights, the psilocybin pinwheels and cruised a few planets in far away galaxies too -- but never one as fanciful as THAT hunky-dory joint.
So where izzit -- right next door to Pandora's Pad?
BTW: Interesting theory ... pollution mutants ... never heard THAT one.
So where izzit -- right next door to Pandora's Pad?
BTW: Interesting theory ... pollution mutants ... never heard THAT one.
FlunkedAgain 3 days ago
+1 Vote
"" the psilocybin pinwheels""
I didn't see that, but I did see the purest blue 3-D net-like structure that floated through space as if riding on an ocean wave.
When I turned on the lights, there was a light brown design on my skin, and it moved with my limbs like it was tattooed on my body.
Quite a challenge for the brain to do that.
But then again, I only tried it twice, and that was 35 years ago.
I didn't see that, but I did see the purest blue 3-D net-like structure that floated through space as if riding on an ocean wave.
When I turned on the lights, there was a light brown design on my skin, and it moved with my limbs like it was tattooed on my body.
Quite a challenge for the brain to do that.
But then again, I only tried it twice, and that was 35 years ago.
ROJODEE 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Homosexual behavior in animals refers to the documented evidence of homosexual and bisexual behavior in various (non-human) species. Such behaviors include sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting among same sex animals. A 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[1][2] Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species. The motivations for and implications of these behaviors have yet to be fully understood, since most species have yet to be fully studied.[3]
FlunkedAgain 2 days ago
+1 Vote
ROJO:
Supporting the contention that Homosexuality occurs in nature, isn't going to spawn a flood of Friend requests from the Right.
Supporting the contention that Homosexuality occurs in nature, isn't going to spawn a flood of Friend requests from the Right.
ROJODEE 2 days ago
+2 Votes
Flunked ..I have a great many friends on the right...and the left...and the center..and do not at times agree with them ..but as you yourself noted it does not prohibit being friends...you and I are friends Flunked..I enjoy the exchanges.....as are myself and TD...and Cougardan....takes input from all ...
Rumpled 2 days ago
+1 Vote
Any investigation into (over) population in these species?
Could just be overpopulation mutants . . .
:)
Could just be overpopulation mutants . . .
:)
ROJODEE 3 days ago
+2 Votes
According to Bagemihl, "the animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity – including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex – than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept."[4] Current research indicates that various forms of same-sex sexual behavior are found throughout the animal kingdom.[5] A new review made in 2009 of existing research showed that same-sex behavior is a nearly universal phenomenon in the animal kingdom, common across species.[6] Homosexual behavior is best known from social species.
ROJODEE 3 days ago
+2 Votes
According to geneticist Simon Levay in 1996, "Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity.[7] One species in which exclusive homosexual orientation occurs, however, is that of domesticated sheep (Ovis aries).[8][9] "About 10% of rams (males) refuse to mate with ewes (females) but do readily mate with other rams."[9] [ Wiki]
BringTheUnionsBack 2 days ago
SEX and LOVE are not the same.
Most animals, I am pretty sure -- but who can be certain, are not 'expressing' or "experiencing' LOVING 'feelings' either before, during or after the act(ivity) of sex.
Men/Woman have the ability to lust and love -- and also have the ability (due to their advanced logic/development) to (at times) experience both at the very same time. Animals, as far as we can tell -- may have homosexual tendancies/interactions but they do not seemingly participate in the FEELINGS for one another in this regard.
The point being is that HOMOSEXUALITY (the sexual orientation) in and of itself is natural and occurs all throughtout the animal kingdom -- whereas LOVE (the expression of joy, bliss, fullfillment, gratitude and contentment) with another being is quite an entirely different thing. less
Most animals, I am pretty sure -- but who can be certain, are not 'expressing' or "experiencing' LOVING 'feelings' either before, during or after the act(ivity) of sex.
Men/Woman have the ability to lust and love -- and also have the ability (due to their advanced logic/development) to (at times) experience both at the very same time. Animals, as far as we can tell -- may have homosexual tendancies/interactions but they do not seemingly participate in the FEELINGS for one another in this regard.
The point being is that HOMOSEXUALITY (the sexual orientation) in and of itself is natural and occurs all throughtout the animal kingdom -- whereas LOVE (the expression of joy, bliss, fullfillment, gratitude and contentment) with another being is quite an entirely different thing. less
BringTheUnionsBack 2 days ago
+3 Votes
GAYS don't need your permission to be GAY -- god already gave them that permission. What GAYS want is a legal recognition (just like 'straights') that there love and 'commitment' to each other is equitable/same (and just as LEGALLY vaild) as that of traditional, 'straight' marraiges.
Cougardan 2 days ago
+3 Votes
And they should have legal recognition and equality...matters not if its by choice or nature that two people love and care for one another...just that they do...
...supporting the good people see in each other is primal....we should embrace it.
...supporting the good people see in each other is primal....we should embrace it.
FlunkedAgain 2 days ago
+3 Votes
Love to nitpick, so here goes.
The issue is Same Sex Marriage, not just Gay marriage.
So 2 life long straight fishing buddies can tie the knot for the Financial benefits of Marriage. There's no legal requirement that people who are married must have sex with each other.
The issue is Same Sex Marriage, not just Gay marriage.
So 2 life long straight fishing buddies can tie the knot for the Financial benefits of Marriage. There's no legal requirement that people who are married must have sex with each other.
BringTheUnionsBack 2 days ago
+1 Vote
What Makes People Gay?
By Neil Swidey
August 14, 2005
Patrick exhibits behavior called childhood gender nonconformity, or CGN. This doesn't describe a boy who has a doll somewhere in his toy collection or tried on his sister's Snow White outfit once, but rather one who consistently exhibits a host of strongly feminine traits and interests while avoiding boy-typical behavior like rough-and-tumble play. There's been considerable research into this phenomenon, particularly in males, including a study that followed boys from an early age into early adulthood. The data suggest there is a very good chance Patrick will grow up to be homosexual. Not all homosexual men show this extremely feminine behavior as young boys. But the research indicates that, of the boys who do exhibit CGN, about 75 percent of them - perhaps more - turn out to be gay or bisexual.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2005/08/14/what_makes_people_gay/ less
By Neil Swidey
August 14, 2005
Patrick exhibits behavior called childhood gender nonconformity, or CGN. This doesn't describe a boy who has a doll somewhere in his toy collection or tried on his sister's Snow White outfit once, but rather one who consistently exhibits a host of strongly feminine traits and interests while avoiding boy-typical behavior like rough-and-tumble play. There's been considerable research into this phenomenon, particularly in males, including a study that followed boys from an early age into early adulthood. The data suggest there is a very good chance Patrick will grow up to be homosexual. Not all homosexual men show this extremely feminine behavior as young boys. But the research indicates that, of the boys who do exhibit CGN, about 75 percent of them - perhaps more - turn out to be gay or bisexual.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2005/08/14/what_makes_people_gay/ less
BringTheUnionsBack 2 days ago
+1 Vote
Read this article (above from 2005) -- it is 11 pages long. Unfortunately it usually takes far more than a 30 second sound bite from Fox/CNN/The View -- to research/educate oneself about any given issue/topic.
Twinsdad 2 days ago
+3 Votes
How would you know? You create a topic using the term "God" and as most of the left you do not believe in "him" Your topic is just another talking point designed to continue the agenda. A godless society can be ruled by "men" that is your single goal. If the left takes "god" out of the equation they rule forever. That is all the left cares about, one party rule, every calculated step is for that goal. All the "entitlements" were spawned from the left. Granted they seemed like a good thing for the general population, but look at Europe, the entitlements are the same there and several countries are about to go belly up and the summer of riots will not be pretty. As Europe goes, so do we, no one buys US made goods and services if they have no money. less
TheScott 2 days ago
+1 Vote
Here is a little video that touches on this subject and some others as it relates to our up coming presidential election....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfoIPt4JRIQ&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfoIPt4JRIQ&feature=relmfu
FlunkedAgain 2 days ago
+2 Votes
TheScott,
Here's a video that many would find amusing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKfxuXWXDw
Here's a video that many would find amusing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKfxuXWXDw
FlunkedAgain 2 days ago
+2 Votes
THOMAS JEFFERSON.
"The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God.
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others.
But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. ... Reason and free enquiry are the only effectual agents against error.
......
http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/jeffersons-religious-beliefs
"The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God.
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others.
But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. ... Reason and free enquiry are the only effectual agents against error.
......
http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/jeffersons-religious-beliefs
RicFlair 2 days ago
+2 Votes
FlunkedAgain 1 day ago
+1 Vote
Better than praying to macaroni.
The pastafarians save some strange ideas.
The pastafarians save some strange ideas.
stndyogrnd 2 days ago
+4 Votes
LOL if "God" or a Creator exists then a "Godless" society is an impossibility. no matter what the Creators Creations believe. If "God" really wanted its creations to know with certainty that the Creator did indeed exist, it would have made that experience as plain as the nose on our face, to all, so there would be no doubt.... obviously that is not part of the plan, assuming there is one......What is obviously the plan is for us to have to reach a point in our lives where we feel the need search out, find and establish our own direct connection with that "Creator". That usually goes through different stages, one being a deep belief in some dogmatic script, involving a Santa/Zeus patriarch sky "God". Then into an agnostic of even atheist belief, then finally into a more spiritual/scientific mode where we require direct experience in the proof of some sort of eternal energetic intelligence, that supersedes these temporary physical individual expressions that we are all a part of. less
BeesBe 1 day ago
+3 Votes
God created man in his image and gave man free will. God no more created homosexuality than rape, and genocide for that was man's doing with the help of the fallen angel. By your logic, God should love the devil as Lucifer, using his free will, went to war with God. Lucifer will lose in the end as will you and all who follow your logic.
FlunkedAgain 1 day ago
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and genocide for that was man's doing with the help of the fallen angel.
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Read about the Battle of Jericho. Killing everyone in the city wasn't genocide?
and genocide for that was man's doing with the help of the fallen angel.
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Read about the Battle of Jericho. Killing everyone in the city wasn't genocide?
FlunkedAgain 1 day ago
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God created man in his image
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Substantiate.
What was God's image.
God created man in his image
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Substantiate.
What was God's image.
rick0427 1 day ago
+2 Votes
Flunked, I cannot wait for the day when it is definitively proven that the gay lifestyle is a hormonal, emotional, physical affliction not a choice that one consciously made. We will need alot of crow. i'll go set the traps.
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