bellum 16 hours ago
Corporate profits are up.
Employee roles are down.
Stock market is up (especially today).
Any Republican/capitalist who doesn't vote for Mr. Obama is nuts, a socialist, or confused. (Confused Republican - almost a tautology.)
For the Mr. Romney supporters in the crowd, how is it Mr. Romney could do a better job at running America as a capitalist organization than Mr. Obama has been?
Employee roles are down.
Stock market is up (especially today).
Any Republican/capitalist who doesn't vote for Mr. Obama is nuts, a socialist, or confused. (Confused Republican - almost a tautology.)
For the Mr. Romney supporters in the crowd, how is it Mr. Romney could do a better job at running America as a capitalist organization than Mr. Obama has been?
RicFlair 16 hours ago
+5 Votes
Bellum baby, its your lucky day 'cause the champ is gonna lay it out there for ya in 3 parts:
1. Your definition of capitalism is off. Capitalism don't mean bailing out banks, or giant corporations like GM
2. Obama's just what he's told by his superiors to secure him a place in history without it being too obvious that he's the perfect puppet
3. Even if your definition of capitalism is accurate, it don't mean his disciples are gonna vote against him pal!
1. Your definition of capitalism is off. Capitalism don't mean bailing out banks, or giant corporations like GM
2. Obama's just what he's told by his superiors to secure him a place in history without it being too obvious that he's the perfect puppet
3. Even if your definition of capitalism is accurate, it don't mean his disciples are gonna vote against him pal!
Nohelp1 16 hours ago
+6 Votes
RicFlair 16 hours ago
+5 Votes
Nohelp baby, just 'cause ol'GW did it, don't make it capitalism, and don't make Obama a capitalist pal!
TheScott 1 hour ago
+2 Votes
Bush gave GM a bridge loan so Obama could deal with the problem as he saw fit.... He did not make GM a ward of the state.......
Bellum 15 hours ago
+1 Vote
RicFlair -
How's what you describe Mr. Obama did re GM different than what Bain Capital did with its 'acquisitions', save for the difference that Mr. Obama has yet to show signs of a pillage agenda?
Cheers,
How's what you describe Mr. Obama did re GM different than what Bain Capital did with its 'acquisitions', save for the difference that Mr. Obama has yet to show signs of a pillage agenda?
Cheers,
TheScott 1 hour ago
+2 Votes
Why would he show any signs of 'pillage'..... h3ll, he doesn't care if the taxpayers lose or not, it ain't coming out of his pocket. The unions are happy though.
BringTheUnionsBack 16 hours ago
+3 Votes
I've had a about a half dozen men (and a couple of women) over these last few years tell me that they would NEVER vote for a black man. "...or at least not Obama / or not a black man just yet"
When Obama had 'suprisingly' been elected they turned-up their resolve all the more. They were caught off guard and are sure to make certain he does not get re-elected.
I can only imagine how much more magnified that sentiment is in the 'tolerant' and far more progressive-minded' south/southwest of USA.
When Obama had 'suprisingly' been elected they turned-up their resolve all the more. They were caught off guard and are sure to make certain he does not get re-elected.
I can only imagine how much more magnified that sentiment is in the 'tolerant' and far more progressive-minded' south/southwest of USA.
Nohelp1 14 hours ago
+4 Votes
I have a good friend, mid 70's, wealthy, majority shareholder in a large regional bank, generous, kind,do anything in the world for you, who said the exact same thing to me one day. He could not vote for a black man.
stndyogrnd 1 hour ago
+1 Vote
But..... thats impossible, all the right wingers keep telling us racism is dead, and does not exist.
TheScott 1 hour ago
+2 Votes
Oh no.... no one says it is dead at all...... we do have those who are overt about it still but political correctness silences those who would say what they think. We have a covert racism that has always been with us.... In some it is manifested in discrimination and some it is manifested in regulatory policies that hold and trap a minority into a dumbed down sense of loyalty to a political machine that keeps them in their place.... for the benefit of the machine. Rules like this, that can be explained by the meddling left as good are actually quite convenient in keeping certain folks dumbed down
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/26/federal-judge-for-blacks-voting-rights-include-identifying-democrats-on-ballots/
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/26/federal-judge-for-blacks-voting-rights-include-identifying-democrats-on-ballots/
Twinsdad 1 second ago
A racist straw man? Surprise straw man for you sir, you're no Flunked, the king of straw.
louman 15 hours ago
+4 Votes
Corporate profits are up.
O had little to do with this. Check with the Bernanke for that success, QE1,QE2, Operation Twist comes to mind.
Employee roles are down.
Check employer confidence. Would you hire faced with the uncertainty of higher taxes, health care changes, Additional regulations?
Stock market is up (especially today).
Market is down for the year excluding today. Investors are expecting a market jump with additional stimulus (QE3). See the Bernanke.
hope that helps clarify the issues for you.
O had little to do with this. Check with the Bernanke for that success, QE1,QE2, Operation Twist comes to mind.
Employee roles are down.
Check employer confidence. Would you hire faced with the uncertainty of higher taxes, health care changes, Additional regulations?
Stock market is up (especially today).
Market is down for the year excluding today. Investors are expecting a market jump with additional stimulus (QE3). See the Bernanke.
hope that helps clarify the issues for you.
stndyogrnd 15 hours ago
+2 Votes
LOL yea that clarifies how a right winger with blinders on percieves all issues... well actually it just reconfirms it for the 1000th time ... it was already clear
louman 15 hours ago
+5 Votes
I guess I should go with your theory, wave the magic wand and poof, everything is beautiful.
Please call your buds in Washington and have them wave the wand.
Work the market? I do, I follow it daily.
Please call your buds in Washington and have them wave the wand.
Work the market? I do, I follow it daily.
Bellum 15 hours ago
+2 Votes
louman -
Focus on the important bit: What is or how is it Mr. Romney could do a better job of running the office of President and/or being President than Mr. Obama?
Also, I take it that you have no complaints, criticisms, etc. of Mr. Obama re issues national economic, as you see Mr. Obama not being party to or cause of what some describe as 'doom and gloom', 'sky's falling', etc.
Cheers,
Focus on the important bit: What is or how is it Mr. Romney could do a better job of running the office of President and/or being President than Mr. Obama?
Also, I take it that you have no complaints, criticisms, etc. of Mr. Obama re issues national economic, as you see Mr. Obama not being party to or cause of what some describe as 'doom and gloom', 'sky's falling', etc.
Cheers,
RicFlair 15 hours ago
+5 Votes
Bellum baby, obviously your country benefits by having the US Executive office filled by a weak leader who don't know how to say no to anybody asking for the US taxpayer to bankroll em pal!
louman 11 hours ago
+3 Votes
Bellum,
What is or how is it Mr. Romney could do a better job of running the office of President
That is what Mr. Romney owes the American people before the election. If he has a good plan he may win, bad plan or no plan he will certainly lose.
O is responsible for the divisive politics today as he divides the nation to gain advantage.
He gets full credit for no energy policy, over regulation and 5 trillion in debt as he continues to try to spend our way out of recession.
What is or how is it Mr. Romney could do a better job of running the office of President
That is what Mr. Romney owes the American people before the election. If he has a good plan he may win, bad plan or no plan he will certainly lose.
O is responsible for the divisive politics today as he divides the nation to gain advantage.
He gets full credit for no energy policy, over regulation and 5 trillion in debt as he continues to try to spend our way out of recession.
stndyogrnd 15 hours ago
+3 Votes
Playing the market brings as much value to our economy, as playing the horses. Some people have a talent for it, but neither activity has any redeeming social value. But then narcississt really don't aren't concerned about being of "value" to anyone but themselves.
Of course the richer one is the more they can make the market work for them. The uber wealthy don't even have to gamble their money, they have too many insider contacts for the most part, its easy for them. Washington is at the beck and call of those folks. The majority of the corrupt is always in power.
Of course the richer one is the more they can make the market work for them. The uber wealthy don't even have to gamble their money, they have too many insider contacts for the most part, its easy for them. Washington is at the beck and call of those folks. The majority of the corrupt is always in power.
Nohelp1 14 hours ago
+3 Votes
Surely, you do not believe that hiring decisions are based on some uncertainty about taxes, regulations, and health care costs? You need to give this some more thought.
louman 11 hours ago
+2 Votes
stndyogrnd 1 hour ago
+1 Vote
LOL but such narrow adolescent selfishness is not the general rule of most business people.... only a pathetic spoiled narcissist who happen to have enough for themselves would fire their employees, and shut down their business out of ideological spite and blind hatred.
louman 59 minutes ago
Mr. Know it all strikes again.
Open mouth insert foot Mr. Stndygrnd,
In spite of paying over 250K in attorney and court fees I kept the business active until everyone found employment. I won in court but it drained the reserves of my company. I could have opted out and paid 300K in fees and fines to the EPA and drained my companies reserves but refused to be tyrannized. Paying the money to the EPA would have resulted in immediate shutdown putting everyone on the street immediately. During that time I had no salary and my employees received full pay. A special thank you to Mr. Obama and the EPA from me and the people who worked for me. As a side note I will fire up the business if he and his over regulating EPA goes away in November. The people that worked for me are ready to start work as soon as I call.
You should spend a little more time doing anything but responding to posts that you know nothing about.less
Open mouth insert foot Mr. Stndygrnd,
In spite of paying over 250K in attorney and court fees I kept the business active until everyone found employment. I won in court but it drained the reserves of my company. I could have opted out and paid 300K in fees and fines to the EPA and drained my companies reserves but refused to be tyrannized. Paying the money to the EPA would have resulted in immediate shutdown putting everyone on the street immediately. During that time I had no salary and my employees received full pay. A special thank you to Mr. Obama and the EPA from me and the people who worked for me. As a side note I will fire up the business if he and his over regulating EPA goes away in November. The people that worked for me are ready to start work as soon as I call.
You should spend a little more time doing anything but responding to posts that you know nothing about.less
Bellum 14 hours ago
+2 Votes
RicFlair -
I commend to you, 'Confront and Conceal: Obama's Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power' by David Sanger.
Enjoy,
I commend to you, 'Confront and Conceal: Obama's Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power' by David Sanger.
Enjoy,
siteleader 14 hours ago
+2 Votes
Employee roles are down.
You sure are right there!!
And if you meant unemployment, which i think you did. June 1st is the end of the extra 20 weeks of unemployment that the Federal gov't provided. When those people fall off the roles, they are no longer counted!! So, now Barrack can claim that the Unemployment rate has gone down. I wonder if this was part of his re-election campaign.
You sure are right there!!
And if you meant unemployment, which i think you did. June 1st is the end of the extra 20 weeks of unemployment that the Federal gov't provided. When those people fall off the roles, they are no longer counted!! So, now Barrack can claim that the Unemployment rate has gone down. I wonder if this was part of his re-election campaign.
Bellum 14 hours ago
+2 Votes
siteleader -
Said what I meant. Meant what I said. No confusion here.
You can play all the counting games you want. Doesn't change the fact less folks are employed today.
That corporate profits are up means those employed are more effective, efficient, etc.
And, that's good, unless you promote inefficiency. You wouldn't trade efficiency to have more folks employed would you? Now, how smart is that?
Cheers,
Said what I meant. Meant what I said. No confusion here.
You can play all the counting games you want. Doesn't change the fact less folks are employed today.
That corporate profits are up means those employed are more effective, efficient, etc.
And, that's good, unless you promote inefficiency. You wouldn't trade efficiency to have more folks employed would you? Now, how smart is that?
Cheers,
siteleader 14 hours ago
+1 Vote
Corporate profits are up but are their revenues?
Are their fewer in the workforce because of efficiency or because corps need to maintain their profits with layoffs.
Is fear of losing your job and working more hours a good way to motivate your people?
Are their fewer in the workforce because of efficiency or because corps need to maintain their profits with layoffs.
Is fear of losing your job and working more hours a good way to motivate your people?
FlunkedAgain 13 hours ago
+1 Vote
siteleader said; "When those people fall off the roles, they are no longer counted!!""
FALSE.
The Census Bureau sends out Household Surveys on a regular basis to determine Unemployment.
EVERYONE, including Illegals are counted.
Bet you didn't know that, as a matter of fact I'm sure you didn't know that, but I like to bet on sure things.
FALSE.
The Census Bureau sends out Household Surveys on a regular basis to determine Unemployment.
EVERYONE, including Illegals are counted.
Bet you didn't know that, as a matter of fact I'm sure you didn't know that, but I like to bet on sure things.
siteleader 13 hours ago
+1 Vote
Dream on brother! I have never received one and if I did I would not participate. Participation is not mandatory.
FlunkedAgain 13 hours ago
siteleader 13 hours ago
+1 Vote
Wrong
http://www.census.gov/survey_participants/household_surveys/am_i_required_to_participate_in_this_household_survey.html
http://www.census.gov/survey_participants/household_surveys/am_i_required_to_participate_in_this_household_survey.html
Nohelp1 13 hours ago
+1 Vote
Some are mandatory and some are voluntary. It will state on the survey which it is.
FlunkedAgain 13 hours ago
Siteleader,
Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem,
The 1st Sentence of the link YOU provided.
""
The Census Bureau will always tell you why your responses to this census or survey are important, and why you should participate, as well as whether your participation is mandatory or voluntary.
""
Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem,
The 1st Sentence of the link YOU provided.
""
The Census Bureau will always tell you why your responses to this census or survey are important, and why you should participate, as well as whether your participation is mandatory or voluntary.
""
siteleader 13 hours ago
+1 Vote
Your reading comprehension is nonexistent.
What exactly are the last three words?
It looks to me like some are and some are not mandatory. I for one would never fill one out either way or at least not entirely like many others that have stated publicly when that national survey came out a few(?) years ago.
What exactly are the last three words?
It looks to me like some are and some are not mandatory. I for one would never fill one out either way or at least not entirely like many others that have stated publicly when that national survey came out a few(?) years ago.
FlunkedAgain 12 hours ago
siteleader:
http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economics/letter/2004/el2004-23.html
Two employment surveys
The payroll survey estimates the nation's employment based on responses from a sample of about 400,000 business establishments, which account for about one-third of total nonfarm payroll employment. With a lag of about one year, the BLS revises the payroll estimate to an almost-complete count of U.S. payroll employment; this results in what is known as the "benchmark revision."
The household survey, in contrast, estimates the nation's employment based on responses from interviews with approximately 60,000 households; the BLS then inflates the survey data by the most recent estimates of the population. Unlike the payroll survey, the raw household survey data are not revised, but the population estimates used to inflate them are occasionally updated to incorporate new information from censuses and new estimates of immigration.less
http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economics/letter/2004/el2004-23.html
Two employment surveys
The payroll survey estimates the nation's employment based on responses from a sample of about 400,000 business establishments, which account for about one-third of total nonfarm payroll employment. With a lag of about one year, the BLS revises the payroll estimate to an almost-complete count of U.S. payroll employment; this results in what is known as the "benchmark revision."
The household survey, in contrast, estimates the nation's employment based on responses from interviews with approximately 60,000 households; the BLS then inflates the survey data by the most recent estimates of the population. Unlike the payroll survey, the raw household survey data are not revised, but the population estimates used to inflate them are occasionally updated to incorporate new information from censuses and new estimates of immigration.less
FlunkedAgain 12 hours ago
Beyond these differences, the two employment measures also differ in concept. First, the payroll survey counts the number of jobs, while the household survey counts the number of employed individuals. Therefore, a person with multiple jobs will be counted several times in the payroll survey but only once in the household survey. Second, their scopes are different; while the payroll survey covers only wage and salary workers on nonfarm payrolls, the household survey covers those individuals as well as agricultural workers, the self-employed, workers in private households, unpaid family workers, and workers on unpaid leaves. Finally, payroll employment includes wage and salary workers under the age of 16, while the household survey does not.
siteleader 12 hours ago
+1 Vote
Where can I find the latest unemployment statisics from the household census? I could not find them anywhere and I am a good researcher.
Cougardan 12 hours ago
+2 Votes
FlunkedAgain 11 hours ago
+1 Vote
siteleader,
You're a good researcher? Lordy, lordy, lordy.
I googled: Household survey
Guess what, I found it.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
Household Survey Data
You're a good researcher? Lordy, lordy, lordy.
I googled: Household survey
Guess what, I found it.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
Household Survey Data
siteleader 11 hours ago
+1 Vote
Thanks for finding that. So these are some of the thngs I found that skew the gov't statistics and why I believe nothing out ot the gov'ts mouthpieces:
-The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) edged up to 8.1 million over the month. They were not counted as unemployed
.
-2.4 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force. They were not counted as unemployed.
The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged down by 0.1 hour to 34.4 hours in May.
From the Washiington Times
Compared to the official unemployment rate of 8.1 percent, the civilian labor-participation rate now registers at 63.6 percent, its smallest size since the 1980s
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/8/the-real-unemployment-rate/ less
-The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) edged up to 8.1 million over the month. They were not counted as unemployed
.
-2.4 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force. They were not counted as unemployed.
The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged down by 0.1 hour to 34.4 hours in May.
From the Washiington Times
Compared to the official unemployment rate of 8.1 percent, the civilian labor-participation rate now registers at 63.6 percent, its smallest size since the 1980s
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/8/the-real-unemployment-rate/ less
siteleader 11 hours ago
+1 Vote
Bureau of Labor Statistics, the U-5 rate, one of six measures calculated monthly that incorporates many of these individuals, reports a jobless rate of 9.5 percent.
The U-5 rate specifically calculates those who are considered “marginally attached”
Every administration and lawmaker has an obligation to be straightforward and truthful with the American people. Calling attention to a lower unemployment rate, knowing full well that millions of Americans are on the sidelines and going uncounted, is an attempt to mislead others on the conditions that most Americans know exist
This is that new and open administration that Obam touts. Right!!!!!!!!!!!
The U-5 rate specifically calculates those who are considered “marginally attached”
Every administration and lawmaker has an obligation to be straightforward and truthful with the American people. Calling attention to a lower unemployment rate, knowing full well that millions of Americans are on the sidelines and going uncounted, is an attempt to mislead others on the conditions that most Americans know exist
This is that new and open administration that Obam touts. Right!!!!!!!!!!!
Bellum 11 hours ago
+1 Vote
siteleader -
You ask, supra:
1. 'Corporate profits are up but are their revenues?' - Revenue is one variable of a two variable equation. Profit can be up even if revenue is down. Ergo, revenue is not that important, if profit is the issue.
2. 'Are their fewer in the workforce because of efficiency or because corps need to maintain their profits with layoffs.' - Efficiency obviously. Employees produce revenue and expenses. The balance between revenue and expense is what efficiency is all about.
3. 'Is fear of losing your job and working more hours a good way to motivate your people?' - The answer to this question is a function of the employees. If the employees are Theory X workers, yes. If the employees are Theory Y workers, probably not. (Your question begs a question.)
Cheers, less
You ask, supra:
1. 'Corporate profits are up but are their revenues?' - Revenue is one variable of a two variable equation. Profit can be up even if revenue is down. Ergo, revenue is not that important, if profit is the issue.
2. 'Are their fewer in the workforce because of efficiency or because corps need to maintain their profits with layoffs.' - Efficiency obviously. Employees produce revenue and expenses. The balance between revenue and expense is what efficiency is all about.
3. 'Is fear of losing your job and working more hours a good way to motivate your people?' - The answer to this question is a function of the employees. If the employees are Theory X workers, yes. If the employees are Theory Y workers, probably not. (Your question begs a question.)
Cheers, less
siteleader 11 hours ago
+1 Vote
Okay good, not that I agree with your synopsis.
Now, how did Obama being a good capitalist achieve these things?
Now, how did Obama being a good capitalist achieve these things?
FlunkedAgain 11 hours ago
siteleader,
What is the Labor Participation Rate?
Who does it include?
What effect will the Baby Boomers have on it when they retire?
Mormons are pulling the Labor Participation Rate down.
What is the Labor Participation Rate?
Who does it include?
What effect will the Baby Boomers have on it when they retire?
Mormons are pulling the Labor Participation Rate down.
siteleader 10 hours ago
+2 Votes
Mormons are pulling the Labor Participation Rate down. ...Chuckle...Utah unemployment is 5.8%
I'd say it was the gov't rewarding those that know how to work the system on the backs of the taxpayers.
Chuckle...
I'd say it was the gov't rewarding those that know how to work the system on the backs of the taxpayers.
Chuckle...
siteleader 10 hours ago
+2 Votes
What is the Labor Participation Rate?
Who does it include?
What effect will the Baby Boomers have on it when they retire?
I don't know. Why don't you tell me?
Who does it include?
What effect will the Baby Boomers have on it when they retire?
I don't know. Why don't you tell me?
Bellum 10 hours ago
+1 Vote
siteleader -
Well that's the mystery isn't?
I posit the aggregate of the national economy is beyond the reach of Presidents, Kings, and despots of whatever stripe.
That said, most, if not all, of America, it seems, hold that the President is directly responsible for and accountable for the American economy, American jobs, etc., etc.
While I find most, if not all, of America incorrect, I find to play that game that it is interesting the empirical facts suggest the Mr. Romney will not be able to do any better than Mr. Obama re the economy. And, Mr. Obama is rather impressive re his national interests decisions.
So, why bother with Mr. Romney?
Cheers,
Well that's the mystery isn't?
I posit the aggregate of the national economy is beyond the reach of Presidents, Kings, and despots of whatever stripe.
That said, most, if not all, of America, it seems, hold that the President is directly responsible for and accountable for the American economy, American jobs, etc., etc.
While I find most, if not all, of America incorrect, I find to play that game that it is interesting the empirical facts suggest the Mr. Romney will not be able to do any better than Mr. Obama re the economy. And, Mr. Obama is rather impressive re his national interests decisions.
So, why bother with Mr. Romney?
Cheers,
siteleader 10 hours ago
+1 Vote
I am writing in RonPaul come November. Romney and Obama represent politics as usual. Same as most all Senators. Especially Senators. We need term limits not career politicians. Though Ron Paul may be considered a career Pol. He is spirited and is not scared to speak his mind even though it goes against the establishment. For that he is often either ridiculed or ignored by the msm.
FlunkedAgain 10 hours ago
siteleader,
re: Labor Participation Rate questions.
You posted: "the civilian labor-participation rate now registers at 63.6 percent, its smallest size since the 1980s "
Now how can we have a debate, when you don't know squat about what you're posting?
Why don't I tell you? I did tell you about the Household Survey, and all you did was go on a Serial Ignorance binge.
Be thankful that you have a better understanding of the how the Unemployment Rate is determined.
A State can have a low Unemployment Rate, and a low Labor Participation Rate. BTW: Mormons are not confined to Utah.
re: Labor Participation Rate questions.
You posted: "the civilian labor-participation rate now registers at 63.6 percent, its smallest size since the 1980s "
Now how can we have a debate, when you don't know squat about what you're posting?
Why don't I tell you? I did tell you about the Household Survey, and all you did was go on a Serial Ignorance binge.
Be thankful that you have a better understanding of the how the Unemployment Rate is determined.
A State can have a low Unemployment Rate, and a low Labor Participation Rate. BTW: Mormons are not confined to Utah.
siteleader 10 hours ago
I asked you because I was flat bored. But since you are so persistant here you go.
Labor participation rate is the amount of people in the US that are participating. In the early 1980's unemployment was 10.8%. so it should be the same with the same participation rate. But, women in the workforce was not then what is now either and many were stay at home moms. not counted in that participation rate.
And now I bid you goodnight.
Labor participation rate is the amount of people in the US that are participating. In the early 1980's unemployment was 10.8%. so it should be the same with the same participation rate. But, women in the workforce was not then what is now either and many were stay at home moms. not counted in that participation rate.
And now I bid you goodnight.
Bellum 10 hours ago
+1 Vote
siteleader -
Choose wisely.
A viable candidate is no different than any viable plan. There's a whole bunch of compromises and trade-offs involved.
If you ignore the compromises and trade-offs, you'll not have viability.
Cheers,
Choose wisely.
A viable candidate is no different than any viable plan. There's a whole bunch of compromises and trade-offs involved.
If you ignore the compromises and trade-offs, you'll not have viability.
Cheers,
FlunkedAgain 1 hour ago
sitleader said "Labor participation rate is the amount of people in the US that are participating."
Nice try, no cigar.
Nice try, no cigar.
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