Friday, June 8, 2012

You really want this guy (Mr. Ronmey)? He repeating Ms. Palin's mistakes

bellum 1 day ago






InnzandOutz 1 day ago

+6 Votes
 
Criminal acts are funny, non?

no

Bellum 1 day ago

+2 Votes
 
InnzandOutz -

Picking a security code/password that is easily determined by a guy who wants to be President, when the gal from the same party, whom wanted to be Vice President, suffered a similar fate a few years prior, is true, funny, and, if you say so, criminal (but not in a U.S. Code sense).

Cheers,

Rojayalso 1 day ago

+5 Votes
 
Bellum................Your question.."You really want this guy (Mr. Ronmey)?"

Despite all of your hacking at Mr.Romney my answer is YES,I consider him to be more aligned with MY personal views,further more I consider Mr.Obama a complete and utter failure. No matter what the reason he has delivered little on his 2008 campaign promises.

Bellum 20 hours ago

+2 Votes
 
Rojayalso -

Not hacking Mr. Romney.

This is a debate forum (and a civil debate forum at that).

A light and easy challange of others' positions, thoughts, and rationales tends to bring the truth to the surface.

Your reason is a respectable one, i.e., Mr. Romney and you are aligned in your respective views. Nothing wrong with that (except you're not making a friend, you're electing a President).

Cheers,

Twinsdad 19 hours ago

+2 Votes
If a man of Romney’s obvious wealth were to set up anything related to the internet I'd be surprised. But let's say for the argument he did.

Ok, so once Romney has become the GOP candidate, the left operatives go right to work, a vast network of hate trying moment by moment to invade a persons privacy.

Lo and behold one of them has success. I would assume that the Gov. has had that password etc. for his "private" email for quite some time, but once he goes over the top with delegates and is the nominee, he gets hacked.

The left, an agenda driven terror organization.

FlunkedAgain 19 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
Twinsdad,

The "hacker' hasn't been identified, so I think that you're jumping the gun by saying someone from the left did it.

How do you know it wasn't a Ron Paul supporter?

Surfrider 18 hours ago

+2 Votes
 
Rojay, if Obama was a Republican, you would be telling us what a great job he has done, as he has done a good job. If the Republicans Congress would wake up and try to compromise, Obama would have accomplished most of his promises. The filibuster is the only thing that stopped Obama from most of his goals.

He got Binladin, the mastermind of 9/11 after George W Bush sat on his thumbs and failed to do so.

He saved the auto industry- Romney was against helping the Auto Insdustry

Obama kept us out of a depression

Obama was for alternative energy until the GOP cut off spending

Obama kept the nation safe from terror after the Republicans allowed us to be attacked- the first successful attack on the mainland USA in our history.

Obama got us out of Bush's illegal war in Iraq.

Obama continues to take out the people responsible for 9/11.

Those are just some of his accomplishments. What are Romney's? Bush's? Reagan's? Nixon's? Four failures.
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RicFlair 13 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
Daddio, leave it to the big men on the right to set the record straight. Bottom line is democrats can't find one single accomplishment that Obama can claim as his own with any credibility and immediately start the dirty trick campaign strategy.

Ya see this in the ring all the time when one opponent is so obviously out-classed the way Obama is out-classed and overwhelmed by Romney pal!

Bellum 18 hours ago

 
FlunkedAgain -

Careful. Your rationality is getting in the way of irrationality. Stated alternatively, your rational thoughts are inhibiting rationalizing. Both irrationality and rationalizing seem to go a long way here.

Cheers,

Bellum 18 hours ago

 
Surfrider -

You too are ruining the flow of rationaling and cognitive disconnection with such rational observations.

Cheers,

Jean01 18 hours ago

+4 Votes
 
Bellum,

You seem to be rather full of yourself, and for all your talk of open debate, display a tendency to accept some things a s fact while ignoring others.

Bellum 17 hours ago

 
Jean01 -

Facts are facts, and exist whether I accept, reject, acknowledge, or ignore them.

It's the relevant facts that deserve acknowledgement, not irrelevant facts.

Moreover, this forum requires selectivity. There's too much going on in too many directions to attend to it all.

If you feel I've not attended to or under-valued a point, agument, etc. Advise. I'll endeavor to accomodate.

Cheers,

LiveStrongest 1 day ago

+4 Votes
 
His warts are smaller than Obama's. I didn't vote for Mitt in the primaries. My choice in the voting booth is "Not Obama". A monkey could be our nominee and I would vote for it.

Ornithopters 23 hours ago

+3 Votes
 
I think Reagan would do a better job governing than Obama :P

FlunkedAgain 20 hours ago

 
Are you calling Reagan a monkey?

You know that Reagan did not play the monkey in "Bedtime for Bonzo."

Nor did he appear in "Planet of the Apes."

Ornithopters 16 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
No flunked, I am saying Reagan would do a better job of governing than Obama.

And Reagan is in fact dead.

RicFlair 1 day ago

+3 Votes
 
Bellum baby, I'll take ol'Sarah Palin's mistakes over Obama's mistakes any day, and the fact that a seemingly intelligent, repeat seemingly intelligent person such as yourself has to play the Sarah card shows how desperate you are about Obama getting thrown outta the ring this November pal!

Bellum 1 day ago

+1 Vote
 
RicFlair -

Desperate. Don't think so.

The event at issue, while kind of funny, simply shows Mr. Romney does not, perhaps, have the focus on the details that he should.

I would expect that character trait to play into your calculus on deciding whom to vote for.

Care to enumerate Mr. Obama's mistakes?

Cheers,

RicFlair 1 day ago

+6 Votes
 
The 3 count bellum baby;

No. 1. ObamaCare
No. 2 Bailing out Wall.Street
No. 3. Racking up national debt faster than any other president pal!

louman 1 day ago

+4 Votes
 
Failure to address the economic issues via policy decisions.
His demonization of segments of the country and business to push his personal agenda.
Failure to establish a sound energy policy.
Failure to address the open border with Mexico and the flood of people that still cross the border.

But he does play a mean game of gold. Over 90 games and counting.
He does find some neat places for vacation and allow Michelle to go early on the taxpayers dime wasting more money while Americans stay home.

Jean01 23 hours ago

+4 Votes
 
Well, it looks like I'm late for the party, since Ric and Iou have already cut the cake.

louman 23 hours ago

+4 Votes
 
Bellum the list is endless as expected from a novice. Experience speaks wonders.

FlunkedAgain 20 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
RicFlair,

Obama did not Bail Out Wall Street. If he had, he would be getting more campaign contributions from Wall Street.

Twinsdad 19 hours ago

+2 Votes
Flunked, he doesn't need wall street... Lawyers

Microsoft Corp $347,916
DLA Piper $297,027 Law firm
University of California $261,846
Sidley Austin LLP $240,846 Law firm
Google Inc $212,719
Harvard University $194,458
Comcast Corp $184,706
Skadden, Arps et al $153,059
Morgan & Morgan $135,145 Law firm
US Dept of State $131,032
Time Warner $129,314
US Government $126,164
Stanford University $124,115
Kaiser Permanente $111,781
National Amusements Inc $109,389 (Media mogul Sumner Redstone)
Columbia University $108,247
Mayer Brown LLP $108,032 Law firm
Wilmerhale Llp $106,061 American law firm ... />University of Chicago $104,617

Jones Day $100,100


http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?cycle=2012&id=N00009638
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RicFlair 1 day ago

+3 Votes
 
Bellum baby, the issue is the fact that this economy is still no better and in fact worse off off under Obama no matter how well he tweets or manages his online passwords pal!

Bellum 20 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
RicFlair -

From where do you get your President, regardless of which (pick one), is responsible for or in control of your national economy?

Is not the charge of your President to keep you safe from the enemies of your state and to ensure a reasonable level of peace (without impinging upon freedom) within your little nation?

From the list above, you, and your fellow posters, are expecting Mr. Obama to either (a) walk on water (a bar no President or wannabe President has met) or (b) you want your President to solve all your petty problems. How very irrational of you re (a) and very socialistic of you re (b).

Also, many of the points above are within the province of your Congress. Your transference is amusing.

Cheers,
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TheScott 19 hours ago

+3 Votes
 
It's quite obvious that you don't seem to pay much attention to the left/right paradime in this country..... It is the left who spend countless hours pushing for more and more involvement of the so called 'strong federal government' into almost all aspects of our lives. It is the left who want government to control, navigate and administer our economy. I am sure you know that when a government picks favorites, chooses which companies win or fail and push monetary and regulatory buttons that turn businesses on and off with the speed of a pen, you can't do anything else but expect the president and his crony's to come up with the goods....

Twinsdad 19 hours ago

+1 Vote
Even though Modern monetary policy dictates debt is usefull, and I understand that fact, I find that Pres. Obama has not been disclosing his real agenda for fear of losing the upcoming election. If does get a second term he will not enjoy the ability he had early in his first term, control of Sen. and House too, and he will not be able to complete the agenda anyway. His true agenda is based in the goal of one party rule, handouts for the masses buying votes, etc to enable the Dem. party to secure one party rule.

Our problems are not petty, look now to Europe to see America within a decade, or less. Over promised entitlements, retirement deferred to spend more on wasted programs and massive gov. payrolls to steal our taxes and produce little for it. less

Jean01 18 hours ago

+3 Votes
 
Bellum,

You might have leapt to a conclusion re the expectation or belief that the President is responsible for the national economy. On the contrary, tho many citizens might think that, there are, I think, many who think otherwise. More to the point, my opinion is that a president and congress probably have a better chance of doing things to hurt the economy by trying to muddle with it.

Likewise I think RicFlair and fellow posters do not have the views you listed, but of course, I could be wrong. There are those of us who think a federal government that is more tending to minimalist is preferred.

I agree that many of the issues are in the province of the 535 that are collectively the Fools we ... more

Bellum 18 hours ago

 
TheScott -

It's 'paradigm', not 'paradime'.

I think you'll find it's your Congress, not your President (pick one any one), that fits the model you describe.

As regards the control, etc. of your economy and the 'almost all aspects' of your life, your Republicans are no different. They are simply playing a slightly different game.

Cheers,

Jean01 18 hours ago

+2 Votes
 
"Republicans are no different

Gee. We can agree on something. I favor the notion of continuing what we started in 2010, voting all the 1/21/2009 incumbents out. All.

Bellum 17 hours ago

 
Jean01 -

Re 'For two years, that collection was rather cooperative with our Dear Leader in putting forth His agenda', which two years might that be?

Re 'I favor the notion ...'. You restate the 'throw the bums out' strategy. Where are you going to find replacements that are meaningfully different from the incumbants you now have. And, how'd that last excercise go? Seems your national credit rating (for whatever that might be worth, though for some here it was a very noteworthy event) took a bit of a hit, as a function, in no small measure, of the new guys.

Cheers,

snarking.slug 1 day ago

+1 Vote
 
Consider the terrible performance of the Congress these past 3 years. Now plug in President Romney. Why would the Democrats behave any differently towards President Romney than the Republicans did toward President Obama? Certainly, the GOP won't have 60 seats, in the Senate.

Whomever is sentenced to be president between Jan 2013 to Jan 2017 will matter little.

Jean01 23 hours ago

+4 Votes
 
Why did you blatantly leave out 'than the democrats did toward President Obama'? Does 'terrible performance' include the behavior when both chambers were in Obama's pocket. And then there's that 60 Senate seats thing.

By the way, no one gets 'sentenced' into the presidency. I haven't heard or read of too many holders of that office who haven't vigorously campaigned, pleaded or begged for it. I only say that because of the three years of hearing Obama and His horde whining about the mess He 'inherited', when I recollect the numerous times he campaigned for it.

louman 23 hours ago

+3 Votes
 
They all stand up, jump up and down and say let me, let me. I can fix it as O did in 2008. I offer hope and change, i delivered little.

RicFlair 21 hours ago

+5 Votes
 
Snark baby, its simple. Romney's dealt with hearing the word no before whereas Obama was coddled all the way up that political ladder.

Once the liberal lovefest was over and Obama got a taste of political reality he started screaming racism pal!

Cougardan 21 hours ago

+4 Votes
 
Bill Clinton is still fuming over it though......Hillary was in the bag til the card was pulled out instead of her name.

Jean01 23 hours ago

+4 Votes
 
bellum,

Your question begs the question 'Do you really this guy (Obama)?' He's (bent on) repeating his own mistakes.'

Cougardan 21 hours ago

+4 Votes
 
True dat!

Bellum 20 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
Jean01 -

The question posed is: 'You really want this guy (Mr. Ronmey)?'. No question is posed re Mr. Obama, as your election is not, in reality, a binary choice. (Thus, no questions is begged.) If you choose to make it a Romney vs. Obama election, you're not only missing the bigger picture, but are being herded.

The question, 'Do you want Mr. Obama' is for a different topic.

Cheers,

Jean01 18 hours ago

+4 Votes
 
Bellum,

Yes, I would rather Mr. Romney be president than Mr. Obama. The basis for the topic post, the selection of an easy password, is hardly a reason to discount Mr. Romney. The election isn't a binary choice? We will quite likely have two serious candidates, with others who will very likely not matter, so I don't understand why, for practical purposes, it isn't a choice between the two.

FlunkedAgain 20 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
""" He's (bent on) repeating his own mistakes. """

It's doubtful that he can kill Osama again. Or do you think that wasn't a mistake?

Jean01 18 hours ago

+3 Votes
 
First and foremost, 'He" didn't do that. A courageous, competent Seal team carried out the mission, as reported.

Second, you made a poor attempt at mis-direction.

Bellum 17 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
Jean01 -

Nicely turned misdirection yourself, by and through 'carried out'.

Perhaps you discount the multitude of decisions it took to achieve that end, which were Mr. Obama's, and the circumstances in which those decisions were made, especially, the latter one's, which were one's with a lot of uncertainty.

Cheers,

Jean01 17 hours ago

+3 Votes
 
Bellum,

Actually, no, I didn't discount the decisions involved. I just have this thing about the credit going to Obama and the wording, i.e., some variation of 'he killed Obama'.

And please, point out my mis-direction.

Bellum 16 hours ago

 
Jean01 -

Re 'I just have this thing about the credit going to Obama', perhaps FlunkedAgain was using conversational speech and didn't actually mean Mr. Obama soley, singularly, and individually killed Mr. Osama.

Re 'point out my mis-direction', your use of the term 'carried out'.

There were, Jean01, a lot of folks involved, not part of the SEAL team, that played just as vital and necessary role as the SEALs. It was a team effort, and Mr. Obama was part of that team.

The 'carried out' hair you attempt to split is misdirecting and disengenuous indeed.

Cheers,

Jean01 16 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
Bellum,

Perhaps FA was, and perhaps not. By the same token, by 'carried out' I meant who actually achieved to primary goal.

' misdirecting and disingenuous indeed.' Seems you state as a fact what is your opinion. But then, I may be guilty of that sometimes, tho it is sometimes because I forget to clarify, or because it is obvious, so I won't quibble.

Bellum 17 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
Jean01 -

You'd rather Mr. Romney over Mr. Obama. OK. Why?

What do you think Mr. Romney can do that Mr. Obama can't?

Cheers,

Jean01 16 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
Bellum,

Your second question implies my preference is based on what Romney can do that Obama can't. Unintelligently premised, if so. I prefer Romney because:

I don't care for Obama's socialistic perspectives.
I'm tired of hearing Obama blaming others.
I'm tired of Obama and his party members whining about the loyal opposition having no alternatives, and being uncompromising, when in fact, they HAVE offered up alternatives, and seem to have been labelled uncompromising merely because they do not agree with Obama and his party supporters.
Just the tip of the negatives.

I happen to think Romney might be able to work with Congress to dismantle some of the roadblocks to economic improvement. The very least reason? I'm tired of fools in the beltway and their behavior, either party, either legislative or executive, and even tho there is a possibility of more of the same, from a slightly different tack, I think one round is enough. less

FlunkedAgain 17 hours ago

 
Jean01,

Obama's options were:

1. Do Nothing

2. Hit his compound with a missile attack and hope we got him. His body would then be buried, and his burial place would probably become some type of shrine. No intelligence would be recovered.

3. Send in Boots on the Ground, which was the riskiest option, have a confirmed kill or not, and whisk his body away so his grave wouldn't become a tourist attraction. In addition computers and documents were flown out for Intelligence purposes.

Jean01 16 hours ago

+1 Vote
 
I'm aware of all that. I never intended to dismiss the difficult issues associated with the ENTIRE effort. Saying something like 'he killed bin Laden' assigns what I think is entirely too much credit to Obama. I also don't begrudge the accolades He got for the action. And, as pointed out, there seems to have been a LOT of work done during the previous administration that was utilized in the development and execution of the plan.

louman 16 hours ago

+2 Votes
 
O giving the mother may I command is highly over rated.

LiveStrongest 19 hours ago

+3 Votes
 
I will choose someone who didn't choose secure enough answers for a password reset (some of the choices given are very easy to guess no matter what) OVER someone who doesn't know there are 50 States in America (that would be Mr. Obama)

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