The eight accused are Bush; former US Vice President Richard Cheney; former US Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld; former Counsel to Bush, Alberto Gonzales; former General Counsel to the Vice President, David Addington; former General Counsel to the Defense Secretary, William Haynes II; former Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo.
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ArizonaCondor 6 hours ago
+1 Vote
Following the hearing, former Malaysian premier Mahatir said of Bush and others: "These are basically murderers and they kill on large scale."
“We find the witnesses, who were victims placed in detention illegally by the convicted persons and their government, are entitled to payment of reparations,” said Lamin at a public hearing held in an open court at the Kuala Lumpur Foundation to Criminalize War yesterday.
He added that the tribunal’s award of reparations would be submitted to the War Crimes Commission and recommended the victims to find a judiciary entity that could enforce the verdict.
“We find the witnesses, who were victims placed in detention illegally by the convicted persons and their government, are entitled to payment of reparations,” said Lamin at a public hearing held in an open court at the Kuala Lumpur Foundation to Criminalize War yesterday.
He added that the tribunal’s award of reparations would be submitted to the War Crimes Commission and recommended the victims to find a judiciary entity that could enforce the verdict.
louman 4 hours ago
+7 Votes
The token court was first held in November 2011 during which Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair were found guilty of committing "crimes against peace" during the Iraq war.
Operative word here since you omitted it is TOKEN court.
n a unanimous vote on Saturday the symbolic Malaysian war crimes tribunal, part of an initiative by former Malaysian premier Mahathir Mohamad.
The operative word here is SYMBOLIC.
Might also note the person who initiated the trial, may be a bit biased. Mahathir Mohamad.
The real link. Story at the bottom of the page:
http://www.malaysiasun.com/
Operative word here since you omitted it is TOKEN court.
n a unanimous vote on Saturday the symbolic Malaysian war crimes tribunal, part of an initiative by former Malaysian premier Mahathir Mohamad.
The operative word here is SYMBOLIC.
Might also note the person who initiated the trial, may be a bit biased. Mahathir Mohamad.
The real link. Story at the bottom of the page:
http://www.malaysiasun.com/
Twinsdad 27 minutes ago
What is the flaw in all of this pontification?
1. Only Congeress can declare war
2. Only Congress can fund war,
Therefore any tribunal finding anything about anything has nothing to do with Bush or an other individual on the face of this planet.
1. Only Congeress can declare war
2. Only Congress can fund war,
Therefore any tribunal finding anything about anything has nothing to do with Bush or an other individual on the face of this planet.
Dr.Doom 4 hours ago
+7 Votes
sk6actual 3 hours ago
+5 Votes
One would think they'd focus upon their own clerics, for the sake fo the cause so to speak.
Throw the first stone might apply. They have a penchant for stone throwing.
Throw the first stone might apply. They have a penchant for stone throwing.
gottaloveit 3 hours ago
+5 Votes
It is highly likely that the same court would determine 9/11 never happened and Saddam Hussein was a saint.
JimboSC 3 hours ago
+3 Votes
If a Malaysian court found GW guilty, then he's OK in my book....which btw, matters more than a Malaysian kangroo court.
ROJODEE 3 hours ago
+4 Votes
Read this as it was transpiring..and dismissed as trivial.and unenforcable...as noted about look to thier clerics before passing judgements
ArizonaCondor 1 hour ago
Trivial, huh?
As if a million deaths can be trivial.
As if those found guilty were not indeed guilty.
As if the American empire were not a criminal cabal which has brought the planet to the edge of total destruction.
Dream on, MW babblers. Dream on. For doing nothing in the face of vast evil, to the rest of the world you are nothing but Good Germans.
Your chickens will eventually come home to roost as your precious freedoms continue to erode. Then you can be the judge of the trivial vs the important. Perhaps then you will begin to atone.
As if a million deaths can be trivial.
As if those found guilty were not indeed guilty.
As if the American empire were not a criminal cabal which has brought the planet to the edge of total destruction.
Dream on, MW babblers. Dream on. For doing nothing in the face of vast evil, to the rest of the world you are nothing but Good Germans.
Your chickens will eventually come home to roost as your precious freedoms continue to erode. Then you can be the judge of the trivial vs the important. Perhaps then you will begin to atone.
louman 30 minutes ago
Twinsdad 30 minutes ago
louman 27 minutes ago
Perhaps Japan will put together a tribunal featuring GE who designed the failed reactors in Japan.
Definitely guilty. Jeff Imelt, run for cover.
Definitely guilty. Jeff Imelt, run for cover.
JimboSC 47 minutes ago
+1 Vote
Here's how dumb this topic is.
Me and my buddies got together and formed a court. We found Obama guilty of being a Kenyan and declared him to be inelgible to hold office. We are now looking for someone with enforcement capabilities. Until then, there can be news agencies that print factual stories about the Obama GUILTY verdict.
And...if chickens roost, why do we have roosters?
Me and my buddies got together and formed a court. We found Obama guilty of being a Kenyan and declared him to be inelgible to hold office. We are now looking for someone with enforcement capabilities. Until then, there can be news agencies that print factual stories about the Obama GUILTY verdict.
And...if chickens roost, why do we have roosters?
ArizonaCondor 37 minutes ago
You, and your friends, as the arbiters of what is "dumb"... and trivial... with your primitive bait and switch argument.
The war crimes will not be scrubbed. A thorough accounting will be made, in good time. The writing is on the wall.
Ratko Mladic scoffed and never thought he'd end up where he is now, 20 years after the worst of his crimes. Murder will out the American war criminals of the 21st Century.
The war crimes will not be scrubbed. A thorough accounting will be made, in good time. The writing is on the wall.
Ratko Mladic scoffed and never thought he'd end up where he is now, 20 years after the worst of his crimes. Murder will out the American war criminals of the 21st Century.
JimboSC 34 minutes ago
We are the arbiters of what is dumb like Malaysians are the arbiters of what is a war crime.
ArizonaCondor 27 minutes ago
Aren't you the one who said the Fukushima disaster was a trivial thing, as it unfolded?
That says something profound about your judgement, imho.
That says something profound about your judgement, imho.
ArizonaCondor 21 minutes ago
"1. Only Congeress can declare war
2. Only Congress can fund war, "
Talking about trivia and irrelevance!
The world knows that the Bush torture regime lied this country into an illegal, immoral, global, war of aggression,
The only ones to whom this is not obvious are the type of "conservative" inbreds who overpopulate this web site.
Notice that Bush, Cheney, and the others don't travel much? Bush stays pretty much to his gated community in suburban Dallas.
2. Only Congress can fund war, "
Talking about trivia and irrelevance!
The world knows that the Bush torture regime lied this country into an illegal, immoral, global, war of aggression,
The only ones to whom this is not obvious are the type of "conservative" inbreds who overpopulate this web site.
Notice that Bush, Cheney, and the others don't travel much? Bush stays pretty much to his gated community in suburban Dallas.
Twinsdad 9 minutes ago
I give you facts, you give back that folks don't leave their houses very much. Byrd, is this what you have been reduced to? Posting stuff that a 5th grader of decent eduction would consider laughable. Courts with no jurisdiction, proceedures followed to declare and fund war, was not the UN informed and voted for it?
This is one of the fundamental issues even the vast majority of the left have walked away from, the war was "legal" the war votes in both Houses of Congress were "legal" the UN resolution was Legal and the war has been over now for almost two years.
Was the current President within his rights to go onto a country's soverign ground illegally to kill Bin Laden?
Perhaps your return here is ill advised if you only bring birther level stuff to this blog. less
This is one of the fundamental issues even the vast majority of the left have walked away from, the war was "legal" the war votes in both Houses of Congress were "legal" the UN resolution was Legal and the war has been over now for almost two years.
Was the current President within his rights to go onto a country's soverign ground illegally to kill Bin Laden?
Perhaps your return here is ill advised if you only bring birther level stuff to this blog. less
ArizonaCondor 6 minutes ago
Classic example of the smug, arrogant, "conservative" know-it-all mentality to be totally dismissive of the violent deaths of hundreds of thousands... in an illegal, unsanctioned (there was no UN authorization of the Iraq invasion, as if that would make it right) many of them children every bit as innocent as the pampered, precious twins he uses to front his own ignorance.
Twinsdad 0 second ago
Relative to ignorance of the subect, I think your lack of insight into the technical aspects of war in the United States speaks for itself.
As to the attacks against me and my family you may check my profile and note that I have never "reported abuse" and I have no reason to start now.
I uphold the freedom of speech issue as freedom for all to speak, even you, although you have been fragged numerous times by MW I respect your right to blog here and if you wish to believe that you diminish my character somehow by using hate as a weapon I will not wish you the same.
No war is innoncent of harming the civilians that do not wish to fight, you seem to support Saddam, the murderer of 10,000 kurds with mustard gas, a weapon so vile it was outlawed years ago more that your own government less
As to the attacks against me and my family you may check my profile and note that I have never "reported abuse" and I have no reason to start now.
I uphold the freedom of speech issue as freedom for all to speak, even you, although you have been fragged numerous times by MW I respect your right to blog here and if you wish to believe that you diminish my character somehow by using hate as a weapon I will not wish you the same.
No war is innoncent of harming the civilians that do not wish to fight, you seem to support Saddam, the murderer of 10,000 kurds with mustard gas, a weapon so vile it was outlawed years ago more that your own government less
ArizonaCondor 2 minutes ago
You've been thoroughly propagandized. You are obviously an easy mark for the managers of perception, as are most of the regular participants on these pages.
ArizonaCondor 10 minutes ago
Time to frag this topic, huh?... given the ultimate triviality of the crimes of the Bush torture regime. We've all moved on, haven't we. It's now a consensus. Mass murder and torture are good things, if done under the flag of American Exceptionalism.
Flush away, MW censors!
No matter. The Book of Life has recorded the deeds
Flush away, MW censors!
No matter. The Book of Life has recorded the deeds
Twinsdad 1 day ago
+5 Votes
You can find this discussion on this site..
http://atabloidapproachtothemsm.blogspot.com/
It can never be "fragged"
http://atabloidapproachtothemsm.blogspot.com/
It can never be "fragged"
RicFlair 1 day ago
+6 Votes
Condor baby, how much money did ya have to fork out to be a supporter or honorary member of this tribunal, complete with newsletters and decals for your beat up car pal!
Cougardan 1 day ago
+7 Votes
Are those the "Hope" & "Change" decals.....O will need them for his tribunals too.
gottaloveit 22 hours ago
+4 Votes
This tribunal is as legitimate as the Nobel committee giving the NPP to Barack.
Cougardan 21 hours ago
+2 Votes
The Nobel is just a joke now....many souls in this world accomplished so much or gave their lives and would ...no....should have been in line for the award....few will even pay attention to it now.
kingston 14 hours ago
+2 Votes
I have just spent twenty minutes reading a thread which begins as an empty box and echoes with the sound of emptiness throughout. Last week someone here pleaded for a topic for the weekend, I wonder is this the topic so designated?
I guess the "rights and freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights will ensure threads such as this one will continue to appear. Sometimes I wonder what ills these freedoms have allowed you to perpetrate on your country.
Cheers from Aussie
I guess the "rights and freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights will ensure threads such as this one will continue to appear. Sometimes I wonder what ills these freedoms have allowed you to perpetrate on your country.
Cheers from Aussie
AdmiralAllStar 1 hour ago
The Bush gang sounds like the James gang, only worse. How they got away with all the evil and tanking of our economy is beyond me.
Anyone see the thing on TV about Bush running from 9/11 over the weekend? He was in his plane and they went WEST instead of east to DC. Surviving those Bush years will not be easy.
Anyone see the thing on TV about Bush running from 9/11 over the weekend? He was in his plane and they went WEST instead of east to DC. Surviving those Bush years will not be easy.
teri 36 minutes ago
+2 Votes
"Anyone see the thing on TV..." is pretty darn vague there, sailor.
Can you give us any actual details and where to find them in their real context?
Can you give us any actual details and where to find them in their real context?
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