Topics> Why is the fact that George Romney, Sr was born in Mexico, on a polygamist's compund, off limits for discussion
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
The Romney patriarchs were part of a colony of Mormon expatriates who fled across the border in order to practice their religion of plural celestial marriage, which was outlawed in the U.S. in the 1850's, as a condition of Utah statehood. That Mormon compound still exists. I'm sure many Romney relatives are still there, citizens of Mexico.
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
+5 Votes
teri 3 days ago
+6 Votes
It's not off limits to us.
Is it off limits to you somehow?
Isn't that the kind of inflammatory opinion based statement that snark likes to label SPAMMING THE BOARD?
Is it off limits to you somehow?
Isn't that the kind of inflammatory opinion based statement that snark likes to label SPAMMING THE BOARD?
teri 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Well we've been discussing it for 2 hours.
Want to reconsider the off limits claim?
Want to reconsider the off limits claim?
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
+2 Votes
No.
I want to see the birth certificate!
THE LONG FORM.
... and the entire topic concerning Romney's sadistic abuse of the gay boy at Cranbrook was purged.
I want to see the birth certificate!
THE LONG FORM.
... and the entire topic concerning Romney's sadistic abuse of the gay boy at Cranbrook was purged.
teri 3 days ago
+4 Votes
What are you talking about?
"a good story about Romney's high school days" is right here on the front page.
As for what your topic claims to have been off limits---'the Mexican polygamy cult' here we are still discussing it 3, not 2, hours later.
"a good story about Romney's high school days" is right here on the front page.
As for what your topic claims to have been off limits---'the Mexican polygamy cult' here we are still discussing it 3, not 2, hours later.
RicFlair 3 days ago
+9 Votes
Who said it was off limits Condor baby? You wanna cage match then bring it on, just don't go crying to daddy censor when you inevitably get put into the figure four leglock pal!
Woooooooooo!
Woooooooooo!
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
+1 Vote
Tough talking guy!
Probably another subscriber to hotmilitarystuds.com, like his hero, Karl Rove.
Probably another subscriber to hotmilitarystuds.com, like his hero, Karl Rove.
RicFlair 3 days ago
+6 Votes
Playgirl and some other womens magazines contacted me 'cause you know the ladies like their eye candy, but I turned em all down'cause that kind of posing is a woman's job pal!
ornithopterclone 3 days ago
+9 Votes
You might not be aware but Obama's own father was a polygamist. This subject turned taboo about 3 weeks ago now. Obama camp has stopped bringing up the issue because of this. You need to bring this topic down before word gets out about Obama.
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
+3 Votes
I think Obama's biological father has been pretty carefully scrutinized. He was clearly a brilliant, but deeply flawed man. Barack only saw him once or twice in his entire life. He was raised from birth by his mother, briefly with help from his Indonesian step-father, then, after his mother's death from ovarian cancer, he was raised from his middle-school age, by his maternal grandparents in Hawaii. Everyone who knew Obama as a child says he was a quiet, studious, deeply thoughtful, sensitive, sometimes slightly withdrawn young man.
This is a classic American success story..... maybe THE CLASSIC American success story.
This is a classic American success story..... maybe THE CLASSIC American success story.
louman 3 days ago
+10 Votes
Pretty light of details. Born, grew up, became president. Everything in between is nobodies business. An American success story destroying the American dream.
Shill.
Shill.
ornithopterclone 3 days ago
+9 Votes
I repeat Obama's father was a known polygamist, and now that word has gotten out, the instructions from the DNC are for good libs to not bring up the issue in case it becomes the next dog meat.
louman 3 days ago
+5 Votes
TheScott 3 days ago
+5 Votes
You want to give links to these biographies? Hows about some childhood friends? Girlfriends?.... anybody? Also, that 'long form' birth certificate posted on the Whitehouse website was a fake.... his own lawyers said so.....and hows about the Connecticut SS number given that he was never resident in Connecticut.... and that rule change just 4 days after Sheriff Joe opened an enquiry into Barack's selective service registration allowing for the microfilm containing his registration to be destroyed...
Nothing classic about him but a lot of mystery
Nothing classic about him but a lot of mystery
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
+2 Votes
All I was saying is that Barack Obama's father was not there when his character was being formed.
There are already reams of original source information about Barack Obama's formative years. He comes from very humble (literally) middle class people who were also elderly and media shy. He spent part of his youth with his grandparents in Kansas, for krysakes.
There are already reams of original source information about Barack Obama's formative years. He comes from very humble (literally) middle class people who were also elderly and media shy. He spent part of his youth with his grandparents in Kansas, for krysakes.
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
+2 Votes
I don't care if Obama came from a ménage à trois, he was not raised with intimate family connections to a polygamist Mexican cult.
Mitt Romney's "otherness" is far more 'other" than Obama's. The Bible Belters hate him. The Methodists and Baptists will be staying home in November.
Mitt Romney's "otherness" is far more 'other" than Obama's. The Bible Belters hate him. The Methodists and Baptists will be staying home in November.
teri 3 days ago
+6 Votes
So you are playing the 'otherness' card, huh AZ?
Is a polygamist Mexican cult the worst thing you can think of?
Although I expect you mean a polygamist cult in Mexico.
How can you discriminate against polygamists?
Are you some kind of a hypocritical bigot?
How about if they were gay polygamist wanting to get more married?
That OK?
Is a polygamist Mexican cult the worst thing you can think of?
Although I expect you mean a polygamist cult in Mexico.
How can you discriminate against polygamists?
Are you some kind of a hypocritical bigot?
How about if they were gay polygamist wanting to get more married?
That OK?
theprofessor 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Come now, no one can choose their forebears. What difference does it make what your father or grandfather did? This topic can be filed under the "mindless drivel" category.
teri 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Come on prof---don't ruin their fun.
We've got at least 6 months more of good old fashioned Mormon bashing to look forward to. Tell me, have you bashed a Mormon today?
We've got at least 6 months more of good old fashioned Mormon bashing to look forward to. Tell me, have you bashed a Mormon today?
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
+1 Vote
I think Romney's kids have the beginning of the "Habsburg chin" on them (after the royal family of Europe's Holy Roman Empire, based out of Vienna).
Protruding chins such as the Romneys' are a sure sign of first cousin-first-cousin marriages over the generations.
Yes, it's "Mexican polygamist cult" I meant to say.
Protruding chins such as the Romneys' are a sure sign of first cousin-first-cousin marriages over the generations.
Yes, it's "Mexican polygamist cult" I meant to say.
teri 3 days ago
+4 Votes
You do realize, don't you, that the Romneys are Americans living in Mexico. Many have dual citizenship but none have only Mexican citizenship. Romney's father and Romney had only US citizenship.
So how does that make it a Mexican polygamist cult?
So how does that make it a Mexican polygamist cult?
Rojayalso 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Now this is a sad day when I read a thread such as this which is started by a liberal poster.
Then I get to read a post by this Liberal poster and a statement such as the one that follows:
"Protruding chins such as the Romneys' are a sure sign of first cousin-first-cousin marriages over the generations."
This statement is the pits! You Liberals need to get a real argument going as post such as this are not going to save this Failed Presidency.
Then I get to read a post by this Liberal poster and a statement such as the one that follows:
"Protruding chins such as the Romneys' are a sure sign of first cousin-first-cousin marriages over the generations."
This statement is the pits! You Liberals need to get a real argument going as post such as this are not going to save this Failed Presidency.
ArizonaCondor 3 days ago
+2 Votes
I guess it didn't matter what GW Bush's father (Bush I), or grandfather (Prescott Bush) did either, huh?
Then why did the Shrub's Oedipal Complex remain so unresolved?
Then why did the Shrub's Oedipal Complex remain so unresolved?
louman 3 days ago
+4 Votes
But the best part is it's entertaining to read. Imagine reading it 2 years from now. What a hoot.
Carol 3 days ago
+1 Vote
What a bunch of useless drivel-----------let's get back to talking about gays for heaven's sake!
louman 3 days ago
+3 Votes
teri 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Well here we are 13 hours later talking about the topic the thread creator claimed would be treated as off limits.
Looks like his attempts to stir up that trouble didn't pan out and he had to resort to chin defamation. Pretty low.
Looks like his attempts to stir up that trouble didn't pan out and he had to resort to chin defamation. Pretty low.
teri 3 days ago
+1 Vote
I doubt many on the left truly care about Mormonism either, Maxy. I also doubt that will stop them from bringing it up ad nauseum. This thread is an example of many to come, trying to feed off fear of that 'otherness' Arizona so blatantly points out.
Religion of any sort makes some people uncomfortable as we have seen here on the board before. Mormonism seems to invite even more distrust. As Lou points out it would be interesting if he were a gay Mormon or even better a gay black Mormon--now you're talking!
I guess we will both have the privelege of seeing for ourselves, won't we?
Religion of any sort makes some people uncomfortable as we have seen here on the board before. Mormonism seems to invite even more distrust. As Lou points out it would be interesting if he were a gay Mormon or even better a gay black Mormon--now you're talking!
I guess we will both have the privelege of seeing for ourselves, won't we?
teri 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Sorry Carol, we're all in for non-stop mindless Mormon bashing between now and the election, courtesy of the ever so tolerant left.
louman 3 days ago
+2 Votes
Maxyasgur 3 days ago
Trim your broad brush just a bit Teri, I doubt few people here on the left truly care about Romney's Mormonism and though I don't have a link for this, my gut feeling is that his religion is a bigger deal to conservative Christians then it is to the left. It certainly doesn't matter to me.
Maxyasgur 2 days ago
+1 Vote
"Wonder how Mitt would be treated by the left if he were a gay Mormon."
We would embrace him for his individuality! I mean c'mon! We are the party that gives everyone a trophy!
We would embrace him for his individuality! I mean c'mon! We are the party that gives everyone a trophy!
kingston 3 days ago
+1 Vote
There are posters here whom I consider to be good friends, both on and off the board. . Carol has suggested that the topic content is drivel and she is correct. To discuss Gays, as Carol suggests, would be but a slight improvement.
To discuss real and significant differences between the parties would be better and to discuss that secret cow the Supreme Court would be even better. Your Supreme Court is similar in make up top ours, it is a politically appointed body and therefore relies more on Political patronage for its legitimacy than it does on its legal abilities. How long I wonder before another Oliver Wendell Holmes appears on the scene? I guess about the time another Jefferson is elected President.
Cheers from Aussie
... more
To discuss real and significant differences between the parties would be better and to discuss that secret cow the Supreme Court would be even better. Your Supreme Court is similar in make up top ours, it is a politically appointed body and therefore relies more on Political patronage for its legitimacy than it does on its legal abilities. How long I wonder before another Oliver Wendell Holmes appears on the scene? I guess about the time another Jefferson is elected President.
Cheers from Aussie
... more
teri 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Kingston
Surely even in Australia you have a deep distrust of those mysterious and no doubt dastardly Mormons, don't you?
Surely you're up for endless Mormon bashing till the election, arn't you?
Whatever else would you want to be doing?
We know that references to other isssues like the Supreme Court are diversionary tactics so you won't appear quite so eager to hear more Mormon trivia.
BTW How's the wife? I trust she has made an exemplary recovery.
Surely even in Australia you have a deep distrust of those mysterious and no doubt dastardly Mormons, don't you?
Surely you're up for endless Mormon bashing till the election, arn't you?
Whatever else would you want to be doing?
We know that references to other isssues like the Supreme Court are diversionary tactics so you won't appear quite so eager to hear more Mormon trivia.
BTW How's the wife? I trust she has made an exemplary recovery.
kingston 3 days ago
+3 Votes
Teri
I think you are being funny but just in case; I distrust no man for whatever religious persuasion. I would never attempt to debar on religious grounds any candidate for public office. I fancy your 1st amendment would support my contention. We occasionally see Mormon missionaries here, they are harmless and I always engage them in conversation (as I do with every American accent I hear) thus I get a better insight into your people and your country.
Thanks for the concern for the leader of the opposition. Monday will determine the pathology of the specimen removed.
Cheers from Aussie
I think you are being funny but just in case; I distrust no man for whatever religious persuasion. I would never attempt to debar on religious grounds any candidate for public office. I fancy your 1st amendment would support my contention. We occasionally see Mormon missionaries here, they are harmless and I always engage them in conversation (as I do with every American accent I hear) thus I get a better insight into your people and your country.
Thanks for the concern for the leader of the opposition. Monday will determine the pathology of the specimen removed.
Cheers from Aussie
ROJODEE 2 days ago
+1 Vote
teri 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Good luck with that Kingston.
I hope all is well.
Yes it was tongue in cheek
I hope all is well.
Yes it was tongue in cheek
snarking.slug 3 days ago
+4 Votes
Mr. Romney had not active participation deciding where he was born or to whom he was born.
This is nonsense.
This is nonsense.
ROJODEE 2 days ago
+1 Vote
teri 2 days ago
+2 Votes
This is more along the lines of posting snark has done in the past. I am glad to see that poster back and the one sided body snatcher gone.
pattersh 2 days ago
+2 Votes
I agree, but would still like to examine both birth certificates...
(because if everyone focused on the REAL issues, I might have to pay attention;)
(because if everyone focused on the REAL issues, I might have to pay attention;)
ArizonaCondor 2 days ago
I don't believe Romney is a natural born citizen.
Can anyone born into a Mexican polygamist cult be considered natural born?
Let's see the certificate... LONG FORM.
How many wives did Mitt Romney's grandfather have in Mexico? How many of them were 14 years old, or younger? How many siblings issued from these arranged cult marriages? What kind of links does Romney still maintain with the Mexican polygamist compound?
Can anyone born into a Mexican polygamist cult be considered natural born?
Let's see the certificate... LONG FORM.
How many wives did Mitt Romney's grandfather have in Mexico? How many of them were 14 years old, or younger? How many siblings issued from these arranged cult marriages? What kind of links does Romney still maintain with the Mexican polygamist compound?
teri 2 days ago
Mitt was born in Detroit to two US citizens. It's going to be a little hard to claim he himself is not a citizen.
Even if by some stretch of your rather twisted imagination you decide his father is disqualified--which he isn't but you know how you get---his mother, Lenore was born in Salt Lake City so she can't be much in question. All it takes is one citizen parent and being born in the US--pretty solid.
Even if by some stretch of your rather twisted imagination you decide his father is disqualified--which he isn't but you know how you get---his mother, Lenore was born in Salt Lake City so she can't be much in question. All it takes is one citizen parent and being born in the US--pretty solid.
ArizonaCondor 2 days ago
teri 2 days ago
Nothing hard about.
But you have to ask for it from someone who might have it to show.
I could show you my birth certificate, for instance, but nobody around here is the keeper of Romney's birth certificate.
So why don't you figure out how to officially request to see it and report back?
Do something constructive about it, since you don't believe published facts.
BTW, we are still discussing this more than a day after you proclaimed such discussion was going to prove to be off limits.
Had any realizations yet?
But you have to ask for it from someone who might have it to show.
I could show you my birth certificate, for instance, but nobody around here is the keeper of Romney's birth certificate.
So why don't you figure out how to officially request to see it and report back?
Do something constructive about it, since you don't believe published facts.
BTW, we are still discussing this more than a day after you proclaimed such discussion was going to prove to be off limits.
Had any realizations yet?
ArizonaCondor 2 days ago
+1 Vote
teri 2 days ago
What should we make of this repeated demand?
I say show him the birth certificate--whyever not--but I do wonder if he really thinks Romney is not a citizen?
Or is he just obstructionist?
Or perhaps merely obtuse?
Tongue in cheek?
Deflectionary?
Obsessed? Repressed? Or mostly self-impressed?
I say show him the birth certificate--whyever not--but I do wonder if he really thinks Romney is not a citizen?
Or is he just obstructionist?
Or perhaps merely obtuse?
Tongue in cheek?
Deflectionary?
Obsessed? Repressed? Or mostly self-impressed?
louman 2 days ago
Why not an even exchange, Romney's valid birth certificate for Obama's valid birth certificate.
I think you'll find Obama a victim of Peripatric Speciation.
I think you'll find Obama a victim of Peripatric Speciation.
stndyogrnd 2 days ago
+3 Votes
LOL no one "blames" Romney for being born into a cult, only that his cultish Family weilds direct influence on his personality and character......
In Obama's case, his father had little to do with his upbringing. Instead he was exposed to a lot of different cultures, and raised by salt of the earth Grand parents, and worked very hard to get were he is. Romney had it all handed to him.
In Obama's case, his father had little to do with his upbringing. Instead he was exposed to a lot of different cultures, and raised by salt of the earth Grand parents, and worked very hard to get were he is. Romney had it all handed to him.
teri 2 days ago
+1 Vote
What happened to Mom? Have you relegated her into ignorable obscurity along with Dad? Neither could possibly have any influence?
Only salt of the earth grandparents?
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